Lets start a list of Soaps, Surfactants and Chemicals you like and use.
h2o spray said
Sep 24, 2017
SH
Maverick Contracting said
Sep 24, 2017
Thought we did this already?
#1 SH
#2 H2O 😁
-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Sunday 24th of September 2017 06:49:56 PM
Eric Schnaible said
Sep 25, 2017
Aw give admin some love. This is what we do.
I will throw this out there. The citrus boost from PWS is a chemical mask. It takes way too much product to acceptably mask the smell. I'm gonna try the lemon tomorrow. Hope it works better. On the surfactant front. I did a lot of math on all the regular roof soaps including shipping. I ended up sticking with dragon Grip from PWS. I've tried all the readily available soaps (Pinalen/flash etc) they work in pinch. If they did not smell so much like laundry detergent or fabric softener, I would be a bigger fan.
There's a lot of talk about SLO Mo but it's seems outrageously expensive. They say you use so little of the product that it is super cost effective. Unless they have discovered completely new chems that no one else has any idea about, that doesn't add up to me.
Any Slomo users please chime in. I'd be happy to be wrong.
Jason Watkins said
Sep 25, 2017
Eric Schnaible wrote:
Any Slomo users please chime in. I'd be happy to be wrong.
Here's some information i wrote about that product in another thread:
The sales lady for slomo sucks....so I've never tried it.....though I wanted to. I gave up trying to buy from them.
Bryan P said
Sep 26, 2017
Baton Rouge Roof Cleaner wrote:
The sales lady for slomo sucks....so I've never tried it.....though I wanted to. I gave up trying to buy from them.
I had a great experience. Got a hose and reel from there.
As far as chemical go. I'm currently using Agent Green (but I need more scent cover), Red Raider, EBC on occasion. Both F9's.
up until the fall, I used 5 gallons of Snotmenade with a gallon of Terra Wash mixed in for house washing surfactant. I liked that a lot, but I couldn't use it on roofs due to the Terra Wash.
Art O said
Sep 27, 2017
Baton Rouge Roof Cleaner wrote:
The sales lady for slomo sucks....so I've never tried it.....though I wanted to. I gave up trying to buy from them.
I think Lori was having some issues with the hurricane. She couldn't get her products out.
Fred W said
Sep 27, 2017
It wasn't Lori it was some gal named Diane....horrible at sales. I asked her if they had samples and if it was good for roof and house. She basically just said no because they cost too much and the product is already well known "sample cost money" was her words.
I responded back and said I was willing to pay and that I never asked for a free sample. I also again asked if it was good for the roof and house. She responded back with the sizes they sell (no prices) and still did not answer the question about it being good for the roof and house....so I just gave up.....:}
I think I will contact Lori though.
-- Edited by Baton Rouge Roof Cleaner on Wednesday 27th of September 2017 07:22:22 PM
Bryan P said
Sep 27, 2017
I loved working with Lori. She totally gets what we do.
Art O said
Sep 28, 2017
Lori has been around for years. There was a time her and PT Bob were the only venders to buy from. She is just getting it together again give her a shot. Her father Rex knows his chit also.
Fred W said
Sep 28, 2017
Thanks Arty.....Will do.
Art O said
Oct 1, 2017
When I buy my next R/W hose I'm going to get that new hose she is carrying. Looks to be a nice hose
SprayWash said
Oct 1, 2017
I exclusively use the Agent Clean line of chemicals now.
Secret Agent for sticking,
Agent Green (which I actually use for thinning down the Secret Agent, since in Florida I don't need a PH booster to make my SH more active)
Agent Blue is a good mild degreaser detergent.
Agent Halt is a bleach neutralized that is great for windows and a final shine on vinyl. Its the only Bleach Neutralizer our there that actually has a neutralizer in it!
and their Ground Force, which is an incredibly NASTY caustic dregreaser. Wear your PPE! It also comes in a Mix-Your-Own 55 gallon kit which really saves on shipping.
Bryan P said
Oct 1, 2017
SprayWash wrote:
I exclusively use the Agent Clean line of chemicals now. Secret Agent for sticking, Agent Green (which I actually use for thinning down the Secret Agent, since in Florida I don't need a PH booster to make my SH more active) Agent Blue is a good mild degreaser detergent. Agent Halt is a bleach neutralized that is great for windows and a final shine on vinyl. Its the only Bleach Neutralizer our there that actually has a neutralizer in it! and their Ground Force, which is an incredibly NASTY caustic dregreaser. Wear your PPE! It also comes in a Mix-Your-Own 55 gallon kit which really saves on shipping.
Ray do you add any scent masking to the Agent Green? I've been using it in my proportioner but it doesn't smell as strong as some other soaps, unless I crank the level more than I want to.
Fred W said
Oct 2, 2017
We'll talk about the Agent stuff in Orlando Ray Ray. I want to just in and buy a 55 but gotta wrap my head around the green and the secret.
Dave O said
Oct 3, 2017
We use Gain for surfactant. The subject of surfactants often comes up. When I first started, I used Amonyx LO. Which worked fine. I later switched to Gain dish soap to save money and it works just as well.
Dave O said
Oct 3, 2017
SprayWash wrote:
I exclusively use the Agent Clean line of chemicals now. Secret Agent for sticking, Agent Green (which I actually use for thinning down the Secret Agent, since in Florida I don't need a PH booster to make my SH more active) Agent Blue is a good mild degreaser detergent. Agent Halt is a bleach neutralized that is great for windows and a final shine on vinyl. Its the only Bleach Neutralizer our there that actually has a neutralizer in it! and their Ground Force, which is an incredibly NASTY caustic dregreaser. Wear your PPE! It also comes in a Mix-Your-Own 55 gallon kit which really saves on shipping.
Ray, I watched your video on Agent Halt. It seems no matter how careful we are at times will will experience the spots and streaks on windows you described. They can be tough to get out. I may give Agent Halt a try. Thanks for the tip!
SprayWash said
Oct 3, 2017
Dave - the key to Agent Halt is to NOT over rinse it! It has a mild soap "marker" in it. rinse just until the market disappears. If you keep rinsing you're just putting hard water spots back up on the windows.
Dave O said
Oct 3, 2017
got it!
Bryan P said
Oct 9, 2017
I've given Agent Green a good test run, but am really missing my Snotmenade/TerraWash (5 parts snotmenade:1 part terra wash) combo for house washing. Love the Agent Green for roof cleaning though.
Chris Mozick said
Oct 9, 2017
I think we should include the Chems and their uses
Art O said
Oct 10, 2017
I’ve never used any of these soaps. I haven’t a clue what any of them are. Tera wash, Green wash even snot. None!
Thats because we learned from the old school master Chris Tucker at the RCIA.
DirtyRoofcom said
Mar 10, 2018
What happened to this thread? What about the list of chem and their uses?
Sodium hypochlorite
Sodium peroxide
Percarbonate
Hydroxide
F9
Etc etc
Liberty SoftWash said
Mar 11, 2018
For a surfactant we use Dragon Grip.
Brian C Jackson said
Mar 11, 2018
We use Roof Snot and Cherry Bomb
And Eliminator for house washing
Pinky said
Mar 11, 2018
Sodium Metasilicate.
BlueRidge said
Mar 11, 2018
Since the shipping on these soaps is so crazy I use either Arm & Hammer or Gain. One of the local chemical suppliers made an additive for me called Gil-Foam that is SH compatible to it can be used in batch mixing as well. We just add a little to the soap tank and it sticks. I bought a 5 last summer and we still have 4 gals. left.
Lets start a list of Soaps, Surfactants and Chemicals you like and use.
Thought we did this already?
#1 SH
#2 H2O 😁
-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Sunday 24th of September 2017 06:49:56 PM
I will throw this out there. The citrus boost from PWS is a chemical mask. It takes way too much product to acceptably mask the smell. I'm gonna try the lemon tomorrow. Hope it works better. On the surfactant front. I did a lot of math on all the regular roof soaps including shipping. I ended up sticking with dragon Grip from PWS. I've tried all the readily available soaps (Pinalen/flash etc) they work in pinch. If they did not smell so much like laundry detergent or fabric softener, I would be a bigger fan.
There's a lot of talk about SLO Mo but it's seems outrageously expensive. They say you use so little of the product that it is super cost effective. Unless they have discovered completely new chems that no one else has any idea about, that doesn't add up to me.
Any Slomo users please chime in. I'd be happy to be wrong.
Here's some information i wrote about that product in another thread:
http://www.nationalsoftwashalliance.com/t62002595/surfactant/?page=1#comment-63906508
I had a great experience. Got a hose and reel from there.
As far as chemical go. I'm currently using Agent Green (but I need more scent cover), Red Raider, EBC on occasion. Both F9's.
up until the fall, I used 5 gallons of Snotmenade with a gallon of Terra Wash mixed in for house washing surfactant. I liked that a lot, but I couldn't use it on roofs due to the Terra Wash.
I think Lori was having some issues with the hurricane. She couldn't get her products out.
It wasn't Lori it was some gal named Diane....horrible at sales.
I asked her if they had samples and if it was good for roof and house. She basically just said no because they cost too much and the product is already well known "sample cost money" was her words.
I responded back and said I was willing to pay and that I never asked for a free sample. I also again asked if it was good for the roof and house. She responded back with the sizes they sell (no prices) and still did not answer the question about it being good for the roof and house....so I just gave up.....:}
I think I will contact Lori though.
-- Edited by Baton Rouge Roof Cleaner on Wednesday 27th of September 2017 07:22:22 PM
Secret Agent for sticking,
Agent Green (which I actually use for thinning down the Secret Agent, since in Florida I don't need a PH booster to make my SH more active)
Agent Blue is a good mild degreaser detergent.
Agent Halt is a bleach neutralized that is great for windows and a final shine on vinyl. Its the only Bleach Neutralizer our there that actually has a neutralizer in it!
and their Ground Force, which is an incredibly NASTY caustic dregreaser. Wear your PPE! It also comes in a Mix-Your-Own 55 gallon kit which really saves on shipping.
Ray do you add any scent masking to the Agent Green? I've been using it in my proportioner but it doesn't smell as strong as some other soaps, unless I crank the level more than I want to.
Ray, I watched your video on Agent Halt. It seems no matter how careful we are at times will will experience the spots and streaks on windows you described. They can be tough to get out. I may give Agent Halt a try. Thanks for the tip!
Dave - the key to Agent Halt is to NOT over rinse it! It has a mild soap "marker" in it. rinse just until the market disappears. If you keep rinsing you're just putting hard water spots back up on the windows.
I’ve never used any of these soaps. I haven’t a clue what any of them are. Tera wash, Green wash even snot. None!
I find keepin it simple is always the best.
DAWN Original still #1!
...Mr BUBBLES a close second!
Thats because we learned from the old school master Chris Tucker at the RCIA.
Sodium hypochlorite
Sodium peroxide
Percarbonate
Hydroxide
F9
Etc etc
For a surfactant we use Dragon Grip.
And Eliminator for house washing
Since the shipping on these soaps is so crazy I use either Arm & Hammer or Gain. One of the local chemical suppliers made an additive for me called Gil-Foam that is SH compatible to it can be used in batch mixing as well. We just add a little to the soap tank and it sticks. I bought a 5 last summer and we still have 4 gals. left.