Brett, yes there's a little individual tweaking going on. When the labels are installed you'll see 10% 20% 30% etc. depending on the length of run of hose , diameter of hose, level of chemical, all of these factors will slightly change the mix ratio. After using it one or two times you'll find your perfect butter zone for your system.
You'll be able to run a rig with two tanks either 50s , hundreds or larger, if desired. I look at it as a massive timesaver. When doing three houses per crew a day, with two crews, I figure I'm losing about 2 to 3 hours per day just waiting for a mixed to be made. From where I stand this is a no brain For my business model.
I've also used Tim's Systemwhen we have washed houses together. I can honestly tell you without reservation that it works. When you're washing the house and you want a 10% mix, you set the dial on 10%, when it's time to boost up to a 30% roof mix you put the dial on 30%. It's just that easy!
Ray, thanks for clarifying this for me. When I first heard of this I thought I was going to be able to get rid of two tanks and free up some space. Now that I know it only mixes the chems into my tanks, I honestly don't see the great amount of time saved. I visioned it being plumped with a water inlet, mixing, then on to the pump. I think this is a great idea for mixing into our tanks once it get's dialed in. I just do not see the time saving when we are still waiting on water. Am I missing something?
Fred W said
Sep 22, 2015
Brett, it does not mix into your tank it mixes from your tanks. So you no longer need to make a mix. You still need two tanks because a water line from the house pushes water where the tank draws water at the same time it draws SH
Aselton said
Sep 22, 2015
I've purposely slowed down some this year and I'm working by myself some and getting help here and there after 21yrs of washing. We always had a 200 gal water tank because with 3 guys going we had one applying, one rinsing and one pressure washing flat work. Our rinse pump is a 21gpm hypro and our washer was a TSF2021 8gpm so we needed lots of water. We hit the house with 2 3/4" lines for supply. A water tank on floats was a must on my rigs. I can see how a pickup truck rig without a pressure washer or a 4-5gpm washer can get away without a water tank. What I'm seeing these days is a lot of skid rigs with 2 tanks one for SH and one for mix. These are great setups for pickups and can easily be converted to use the proportioner. If you have or wanted to add a pressure washer simply supply it from the now converted water tank.
Paul is working on some pretty cool skids using the proportioner and the vertical space saving tanks that will be out soon. He is also looking more at the 110v booster pumps we have been using for years in our area. The booster pump is awesome for softwashing because you can use a simple garden hose nozzle to apply your solutions and then switch a 3way at the pump and start rinsing with the same 1/2" line effectively.
Aselton said
Sep 22, 2015
This was our rig in the early stages with 3 200 gal tanks mixing multiple times for each job!
Brett, it does not mix into your tank it mixes from your tanks. So you no longer need to make a mix. You still need two tanks because a water line from the house pushes water where the tank draws water at the same time it draws SH
Thank you Doug. I can get rid of at least one tank. I am looking forward to see this in action.
Aselton said
Sep 23, 2015
This is our rig after reducing it to the 2 tank system with the proportioner prototype . We have made many changes to this truck since photo.
Brett, this is solid system that will help you save tons of time. We washed with it today on a stubborn older brick home under multiple live oak trees.
DirtyRoofcom said
Sep 24, 2015
BlueRidge wrote:
SprayWash wrote:
Brett, yes there's a little individual tweaking going on. When the labels are installed you'll see 10% 20% 30% etc. depending on the length of run of hose , diameter of hose, level of chemical, all of these factors will slightly change the mix ratio. After using it one or two times you'll find your perfect butter zone for your system.
You'll be able to run a rig with two tanks either 50s , hundreds or larger, if desired. I look at it as a massive timesaver. When doing three houses per crew a day, with two crews, I figure I'm losing about 2 to 3 hours per day just waiting for a mixed to be made. From where I stand this is a no brain For my business model.
I've also used Tim's Systemwhen we have washed houses together. I can honestly tell you without reservation that it works. When you're washing the house and you want a 10% mix, you set the dial on 10%, when it's time to boost up to a 30% roof mix you put the dial on 30%. It's just that easy!
Ray, thanks for clarifying this for me. When I first heard of this I thought I was going to be able to get rid of two tanks and free up some space. Now that I know it only mixes the chems into my tanks, I honestly don't see the great amount of time saved. I visioned it being plumped with a water inlet, mixing, then on to the pump. I think this is a great idea for mixing into our tanks once it get's dialed in. I just do not see the time saving when we are still waiting on water. Am I missing something?
I agree, My time spent making a mix is 90% waiting for hose water to fill up, my SH gets dumped right into my tanks. I dont see a "large" amount of time saved with this. Great product and ingenuity just not for me with the amount of volume I do.
Fred W said
Sep 24, 2015
Erik, I think you might be missing where the time savings is at. You can have a water tank with a plunger stop installed. This way you just hook up your water to the truck and never look back. The tank keeps filling and when full it stops.
You have an SH tank, a water tank and a soap tank. Each drawing whats needed as set by you at the dials. No need to make a mix at all.
I see this as a massive time saver and money in my pocket. How many times have you sat back and watched the water slowly fill your mix tank?
I run two mix tanks now so it will actually allow me to carry one less tank but I need to put two Pro-portioners on my truck.
Art O said
Sep 25, 2015
Doug why would you need 2 ? Couldn't you just put a 3 way valve somewhere and switch back and forth
BlueRidge said
Sep 25, 2015
Baton Rouge Roof Cleaner wrote:
Erik, I think you might be missing where the time savings is at. You can have a water tank with a plunger stop installed. This way you just hook up your water to the truck and never look back. The tank keeps filling and when full it stops.
You have an SH tank, a water tank and a soap tank. Each drawing whats needed as set by you at the dials. No need to make a mix at all.
I see this as a massive time saver and money in my pocket. How many times have you sat back and watched the water slowly fill your mix tank?
I run two mix tanks now so it will actually allow me to carry one less tank but I need to put two Pro-portioners on my truck.
Doug, you and Tim have clarified this whole process. As I understand it, I can get rid of at least on tank, maybe two and give my truck a bit more room for other things. So much of our work is at homes with wells. Watching the water trickle into tanks is sometimes a half hour waste of time! I am waiting to see how it works and how easy it will be to "dial in". A perfect time to make changes since winter is rebuild time for me.
ReNew Roof and Exterior cleaning said
Sep 25, 2015
I see that a lot of guys here use water boosters, as well as I. I use it to fill my tanks. At 20+gpm it only takes 5 minutes to fill a 100 gallon tank. Im not knocking the Proportioner, I think its a great idea. Then again, with my work load I have the time to make my own mix.
BlueRidge said
Sep 26, 2015
ReNew Roof and Exterior cleaning wrote:
I see that a lot of guys here use water boosters, as well as I. I use it to fill my tanks. At 20+gpm it only takes 5 minutes to fill a 100 gallon tank. Im not knocking the Proportioner, I think its a great idea. Then again, with my work load I have the time to make my own mix.
The booster has a lot to do with the pressure/GPM it is getting from the house. If it is a well with a low GPM then it can only boost it just a little. If we go to a home with good GPM from city water it will do a great job.
The more I learn about this set up the more I like the time and efficiency factors!
Fred W said
Sep 26, 2015
Art O wrote:
Doug why would you need 2 ? Couldn't you just put a 3 way valve somewhere and switch back and forth
Hey Art, it's because there are two guys shooting at the same time. If I shoot the roof at 3% and someone else shoots the house at 1% we cant run on the same ProPortioner
Art O said
Sep 26, 2015
Baton Rouge Roof Cleaner wrote:
Art O wrote:
Doug why would you need 2 ? Couldn't you just put a 3 way valve somewhere and switch back and forth
Hey Art, it's because there are two guys shooting at the same time. If I shoot the roof at 3% and someone else shoots the house at 1% we cant run on the same ProPortioner
OK spend the $3000, you need it
Aselton said
Sep 26, 2015
Doug, you could just designate your current system to only one mix. Then you could use proportioner for all other mixes...
Fred W said
Sep 26, 2015
Aselton wrote:
Doug, you could just designate your current system to only one mix. Then you could use proportioner for all other mixes...
That would defeat the purpose. I already use two mix tanks and spend way too much time watching them fill.
Aselton said
Sep 26, 2015
10-4, I agree. Aggressive system I like it! I can't wait to hear your feedback after mixing 2 tanks all day.
Fred W said
Sep 26, 2015
If I don't like it....no worries......Ray knows where you live and I have lots of eggs.....:}
waxman18324 said
Sep 26, 2015
Doug,
Are you washing houses with your roof pump instead of a pressure washer/down streaming?
Hank
Aselton said
Sep 26, 2015
Baton Rouge Roof Cleaner wrote:
If I don't like it....no worries......Ray knows where you live and I have lots of eggs.....:}
I'm not going anywhere buddy. I hope it helps you out above and beyond your expectations.
Fred W said
Sep 26, 2015
waxman18324 wrote:
Doug,
Are you washing houses with your roof pump instead of a pressure washer/down streaming?
Hank
I don't downstream at all....like as in zero. I use my RBP Pump for house washing.
Aselton said
Sep 27, 2015
We have used booster pumps since 2003 for applying and rinsing. We went to rinsing with 10gpm hypros, then 15gpm and now 20gpm turned down to 13gpms at the nozzle (300' of 1/2") for 2 man. Boosters are great for one man systems because they sling solutions well above 12v capabilities and they can effectively rinse on 300' lines. We run 100-150' 10ga cords off the house and run a generator when no power is available. Washing in complete silence is nice. 12v application and booster rinse is a great 2 man silent combo as well.
-- Edited by Aselton on Sunday 27th of September 2015 09:00:26 AM
Fred W said
Sep 27, 2015
We use the booster for house wash application as well as the rinse. The 12v is for the roof application but can act as a back up for house wash. When I say two guys shooting I mean one doing the roof and one doing the house wash.
The ground guy keeps us away from each other and mostly helps the roof guy.
Aselton said
Sep 27, 2015
Super efficient, we were gonna build a second system for doing just that. I always felt that we were wasting time while we were roof washing. I am the rinse man and I followed the roof guy around the house. If we didn't have our concrete guy washing drive he could be applying house wash and I could rinse while going around spraying plants and grass mirroring the roof guy. I bought a reel and another pump, but our primary pump went down we never put it all together. There is always a more efficient way to maximize production, that is what brought about our Proportioner and mega rinse pump. Not to cut corners, but work smarter with excellent equipment. I'm very impressed with the advancements over the years on these forums. I wish we had them in the early 90's when I started, I could have saved a bunch of plants and some stressful growing pains...
-- Edited by Aselton on Sunday 27th of September 2015 08:34:22 PM
Jeff Thompson said
Sep 28, 2015
Aselton wrote:
We have used booster pumps since 2003 for applying and rinsing. We went to rinsing with 10gpm hypros, then 15gpm and now 20gpm turned down to 13gpms at the nozzle (300' of 1/2") for 2 man. Boosters are great for one man systems because they sling solutions well above 12v capabilities and they can effectively rinse on 300' lines. We run 100-150' 10ga cords off the house and run a generator when no power is available. Washing in complete silence is nice. 12v application and booster rinse is a great 2 man silent combo as well.
-- Edited by Aselton on Sunday 27th of September 2015 09:00:26 AM
I've found since moving to Florida a lot of people prefer you do not step foot on their tile roofs. So I've been shooting from the roof line but sometimes have a little trouble reaching the peak, even with extensions. I thought the booster pump was for rinsing, but this post suggests you can apply the roof mix as well as rinse. How well do they hold up to the SH? At around 3X the cost of regular roof pumps I would be a little leary to do that.
Been thinking off adding a booster pump lately and if I can safely run SH through it that would make my mind up.
Aselton said
Sep 28, 2015
SH will definitely be the death of your booster pump. They have lasted a whole season for us before. You need to buy a quality pump and take care of it if you want it to last. We are currently using a Sta-Rite HPS7D-01, It's a S/S 3/4hp 115v . I put it on the truck in March and washed all day today with it off 100' of 10ga cord. I would only use 10ga cord because of the power loss at distance you don't want to run them hot. Running it off a generator is fine too, I just like the silence when it's just 1 man. The fact that you apply and immediately rinse with the pump is a huge plus for extending its life.
Ray, thanks for clarifying this for me. When I first heard of this I thought I was going to be able to get rid of two tanks and free up some space. Now that I know it only mixes the chems into my tanks, I honestly don't see the great amount of time saved. I visioned it being plumped with a water inlet, mixing, then on to the pump. I think this is a great idea for mixing into our tanks once it get's dialed in. I just do not see the time saving when we are still waiting on water. Am I missing something?
Paul is working on some pretty cool skids using the proportioner and the vertical space saving tanks that will be out soon. He is also looking more at the 110v booster pumps we have been using for years in our area. The booster pump is awesome for softwashing because you can use a simple garden hose nozzle to apply your solutions and then switch a 3way at the pump and start rinsing with the same 1/2" line effectively.
This was our rig in the early stages with 3 200 gal tanks mixing multiple times for each job!
Thank you Doug. I can get rid of at least one tank. I am looking forward to see this in action.
This is our rig after reducing it to the 2 tank system with the proportioner prototype . We have made many changes to this truck since photo.
Brett, this is solid system that will help you save tons of time. We washed with it today on a stubborn older brick home under multiple live oak trees.
I agree, My time spent making a mix is 90% waiting for hose water to fill up, my SH gets dumped right into my tanks. I dont see a "large" amount of time saved with this. Great product and ingenuity just not for me with the amount of volume I do.
You have an SH tank, a water tank and a soap tank. Each drawing whats needed as set by you at the dials. No need to make a mix at all.
I see this as a massive time saver and money in my pocket. How many times have you sat back and watched the water slowly fill your mix tank?
I run two mix tanks now so it will actually allow me to carry one less tank but I need to put two Pro-portioners on my truck.
Doug, you and Tim have clarified this whole process. As I understand it, I can get rid of at least on tank, maybe two and give my truck a bit more room for other things. So much of our work is at homes with wells. Watching the water trickle into tanks is sometimes a half hour waste of time! I am waiting to see how it works and how easy it will be to "dial in". A perfect time to make changes since winter is rebuild time for me.
The booster has a lot to do with the pressure/GPM it is getting from the house. If it is a well with a low GPM then it can only boost it just a little. If we go to a home with good GPM from city water it will do a great job.
The more I learn about this set up the more I like the time and efficiency factors!
Hey Art, it's because there are two guys shooting at the same time. If I shoot the roof at 3% and someone else shoots the house at 1% we cant run on the same ProPortioner
OK spend the $3000, you need it
That would defeat the purpose. I already use two mix tanks and spend way too much time watching them fill.
10-4, I agree. Aggressive system I like it! I can't wait to hear your feedback after mixing 2 tanks all day.
Are you washing houses with your roof pump instead of a pressure washer/down streaming?
Hank
I'm not going anywhere buddy. I hope it helps you out above and beyond your expectations.
I don't downstream at all....like as in zero. I use my RBP Pump for house washing.
We have used booster pumps since 2003 for applying and rinsing. We went to rinsing with 10gpm hypros, then 15gpm and now 20gpm turned down to 13gpms at the nozzle (300' of 1/2") for 2 man. Boosters are great for one man systems because they sling solutions well above 12v capabilities and they can effectively rinse on 300' lines. We run 100-150' 10ga cords off the house and run a generator when no power is available. Washing in complete silence is nice. 12v application and booster rinse is a great 2 man silent combo as well.
-- Edited by Aselton on Sunday 27th of September 2015 09:00:26 AM
The ground guy keeps us away from each other and mostly helps the roof guy.
Super efficient, we were gonna build a second system for doing just that. I always felt that we were wasting time while we were roof washing. I am the rinse man and I followed the roof guy around the house. If we didn't have our concrete guy washing drive he could be applying house wash and I could rinse while going around spraying plants and grass mirroring the roof guy. I bought a reel and another pump, but our primary pump went down we never put it all together. There is always a more efficient way to maximize production, that is what brought about our Proportioner and mega rinse pump. Not to cut corners, but work smarter with excellent equipment. I'm very impressed with the advancements over the years on these forums. I wish we had them in the early 90's when I started, I could have saved a bunch of plants and some stressful growing pains...
-- Edited by Aselton on Sunday 27th of September 2015 08:34:22 PM
I've found since moving to Florida a lot of people prefer you do not step foot on their tile roofs. So I've been shooting from the roof line but sometimes have a little trouble reaching the peak, even with extensions. I thought the booster pump was for rinsing, but this post suggests you can apply the roof mix as well as rinse. How well do they hold up to the SH? At around 3X the cost of regular roof pumps I would be a little leary to do that.
Been thinking off adding a booster pump lately and if I can safely run SH through it that would make my mind up.
This is our current pump.
That's basically the same pump we use just ours costs a bit less.