We have used booster pumps since 2003 for applying and rinsing. We went to rinsing with 10gpm hypros, then 15gpm and now 20gpm turned down to 13gpms at the nozzle (300' of 1/2") for 2 man. Boosters are great for one man systems because they sling solutions well above 12v capabilities and they can effectively rinse on 300' lines. We run 100-150' 10ga cords off the house and run a generator when no power is available. Washing in complete silence is nice. 12v application and booster rinse is a great 2 man silent combo as well.
-- Edited by Aselton on Sunday 27th of September 2015 09:00:26 AM
I've found since moving to Florida a lot of people prefer you do not step foot on their tile roofs. So I've been shooting from the roof line but sometimes have a little trouble reaching the peak, even with extensions. I thought the booster pump was for rinsing, but this post suggests you can apply the roof mix as well as rinse. How well do they hold up to the SH? At around 3X the cost of regular roof pumps I would be a little leary to do that.
Been thinking off adding a booster pump lately and if I can safely run SH through it that would make my mind up.
Jeff - I use my booster pump for spraying mix ( and transferring straight SH) every day. I kill about 4 of them per year - each time one dies it has made me about 70K or more!!!!!!
Steve Salley said
Sep 29, 2015
right side to water meaning to a bulk rinse tank or hose hookup from a house for general rinsing?
I am assuming the fact the left side goes to the pro portioner, the water tank for that has been addressed before coming to the booster pump? Can the same water tank used for the blending be used for the bulk rinse tank? Just a valve to bypass the pro portioner or a seperate bulkhead plumbed in the tank for the direct rinse line?
Steve Salley said
Sep 29, 2015
Tim
The other thread answered my question so I apologize for the question here. I love the booster pump and the simplicity of one pump spraying/ rinsing is cool
the nozzle design you showed is very innovative and simple. I guess that is why pictures are worth a thousand words...
Aselton said
Sep 29, 2015
The hose to the left is plumbed to the Proportioner, the hose to the right is plumbed to the water intake reel off the house. You can plumb the right side to the water tank, but it has a lot more power when water is forced in it.
Aselton said
Sep 30, 2015
Proportioner.com will be up and running in a week or two, but we should be getting a YouTube demo from Paul very soon. I'm pretty sure he is going to demo it with a 12v, 110 booster and a air diaphragm.
Jeff Thompson said
Oct 1, 2015
So walk me through the set up. Standard electrical outlet from the customers home or generator - use a 10 gauge cord. Now, do you draw from your bulk water tank or is it fed directly from the customers water tap? Other posts say it turns low water pressure into higher pressure, so that means to me your drawing from the customers tap.....
But if you can apply SH with it that means it can pull from a dip stick out of your chem tank (or however you have your chem delivery plumbed).....if true then you should also be able to pull from your bulk water tank.
Water pressure is fine for me so 99% of the time so I don't necessarily need it for a volume rinse, but it would be a great tool for boosting my reach capabilities. How much farther can it reach vs the 12 volt set up? And if my primary intention was to purchase one for shooting farther would that be a good investment?
1/2" delivery hose?
Fred W said
Oct 1, 2015
Jeff Thompson wrote:
So walk me through the set up. Standard electrical outlet from the customers home or generator - use a 10 gauge cord. --------- Yes
Now, do you draw from your bulk water tank or is it fed directly from the customers water tap? Other posts say it turns low water pressure into higher pressure, so that means to me your drawing from the customers tap..... ---------- We're now talking about two different subjects. The ProPortioner has nothing to do with water pressure.....the booster pump is for the increase in both pressure and volume. You can draw from both the house water and the tank.
To use the ProPortioner you need to draw from a water tank so the draw is even with the SH. You just need to install a float stop in the tank and connect directly to house water. This way the tank is always being filled but not overfilled.
Next install a 3 way valve so you can turn the water on directly to the pump and not to the tank (a tee in the line will allow both). This way you can rinse your lines or rinse by boosting the house water pressure and not drawing from the tank (which now needs to be refilled if you draw from it).
But if you can apply SH with it that means it can pull from a dip stick out of your chem tank (or however you have your chem delivery plumbed).....if true then you should also be able to pull from your bulk water tank. ------------ Yes, as above.
Water pressure is fine for me so 99% of the time so I don't necessarily need it for a volume rinse, ------------ Ohhhhhh yes you do......you just don't know it till you've had one.....:}
but it would be a great tool for boosting my reach capabilities. How much farther can it reach vs the 12 volt set up? ---------- I would not use it for _residential" roof shooting (though I may try again after Tim showed us how he uses the 4 banger tip). Yes it will increase your your reach over the 12v but it puts out too much volume (again, read Tim's notes on this) so you need to be careful.
And if my primary intention was to purchase one for shooting farther would that be a good investment? ---------- For me the booster pump is about the rinse and the house wash and for those it is soooooooo worth the investment. Tim came up with the ProPortioner as a time saver but if I had to choose between my booster pump and the ProPortioner.....hands down I'd keep my booster. That thing saves me hours PER JOB since we rinse every roof.
1/2" delivery hose? ---------- Yes, I use a 1/2" ID
Aselton said
Oct 1, 2015
What Doug said... Doug, if you are rinsing every roof you should really try the hypro or udor diaphragm, you will be blown away at the volume and pressure through 300' of 1/2". 3/4 throttle on a 11hp Honda and I flow 13gpms at the nozzle. Our boosters flow 6 on a good day.
Fred W said
Oct 1, 2015
Aselton wrote:
What Doug said... Doug, if you are rinsing every roof you should really try the hypro or udor diaphragm, you will be blown away at the volume and pressure through 300' of 1/2". 3/4 throttle on a 11hp Honda and I flow 13gpms at the nozzle. Our boosters flow 6 on a good day.
I think I would then need a large buffer tank?
Aselton said
Oct 1, 2015
They make a 10gpm that runs on a 5hp Honda that's a stud too, a 15gpm on a 8hp as well. Mega rinse, huge time savings, but noisy...
Ray, how far can you spray mix using a booster instead of 12V?
I have a lot of high colonial type homes and big mansions that due to pitch of roofs make hard to hit from ground and require a 32' or even 40'. would like an alternitive option and is there a minimum flow rate necc. for size of pump?
Art O said
Oct 6, 2015
Aselton said
Oct 6, 2015
Thanks Art!
Ron Musgraves said
Oct 9, 2015
Love those Certified Logos
Ron Musgraves said
Oct 13, 2015
Ramon is all over the Web with this Machine , I'm trying to follow him.
I just declared this Thread as the current info on the unit.
I'll try to help update the media from this revolutionary product.
Ramons Revolutionizing the Softwash World Softwashing
-- Edited by Ron Musgraves on Tuesday 13th of October 2015 08:05:17 PM
Ron Musgraves said
Oct 15, 2015
Un real !!!!!!!!!
Aselton said
Oct 15, 2015
This is a quick change out and we still have a few things to add like the 3way for flushing and his sticker kit. He literally went from washing one afternoon with the 12v mix style setup to the no mix required proportioner system the next morning. I believe Ray is going to add a PW just behind the cab so he opted to use the 100gal tank for water. You could use the 100gal for SH and double run time between fill ups using the 50gal for water. You simply have a variety of options with the proportioner. I'm building a new rig with twin 150gal tanks so I can carry max SH and still have a solid water supply for running proportioner, rinse pump and pressure washer at the same time if needed. The biggest change to me with converting to proportioner/booster system besides never mixing again is the ability to apply and rinse effectively with one line.
Ron Musgraves said
Oct 15, 2015
Lisa & Eric have one also, I wonder what there thoughts are on the New Innovation?
Fred W said
Oct 15, 2015
I did receive one of the two I ordered but I'm waiting on the second one before I redo my main truck. I'll post my thoughts after I have a chance to put it through a few days of work.....I'm excited about the implications.
Aselton said
Oct 15, 2015
Doug, text me if you need anything 850-445-3306
Aselton said
Oct 15, 2015
This is pic with dials... This is my demo that is unused.
I'm seeing a few guys talking about bad mixes lately. By now most everybody understands how the proportioner works. This system would eliminate ruining a whole roof mix if something wasn't right. The ability to raise or lower the strength of your mix is always a plus, but as temperatures start to drop it can be real important to tweak ratios throughout the day.
Aselton said
Feb 1, 2016
The Orlando show was successful and we got a lot of feedback from guys who owned the proportioner. We will be making a few minor changes, nothing functional just stickers. We sold 15 at the show, it seems like more and more people are starting to believe... There are some guys that are still hesitant about purchasing a unit. I wish we could sell them for a few hundred bucks, but they cost a fortune to build the way we build them. They are literally bullet proof and you will never buy another unit because it wears out. Worst case scenario is you rebuild bleach valve after a year or so. If you flush your unit at the end of the day, we really don't know how long it will last... My original valves just keep going, I just washed all day today. I have to go fire it up in the morning, day in and day out it just keeps going. I hope each and every one we have out there makes its owner as happy as I have been.
Aselton said
Feb 19, 2016
Http://proportioner.com we finally got site up, we are working on a few videos for installation and maintenance.
This is the simple plumbing, left side to Proportioner and the right side to water intake.
This is in a box under the deck, this was a temporary install in March because I was sure I would be in my new rig shortly....
-- Edited by Aselton on Tuesday 29th of September 2015 04:49:01 PM
This is the new rig if I can every get around to starting on it....
Jeff - I use my booster pump for spraying mix ( and transferring straight SH) every day. I kill about 4 of them per year - each time one dies it has made me about 70K or more!!!!!!
I am assuming the fact the left side goes to the pro portioner, the water tank for that has been addressed before coming to the booster pump? Can the same water tank used for the blending be used for the bulk rinse tank? Just a valve to bypass the pro portioner or a seperate bulkhead plumbed in the tank for the direct rinse line?
The other thread answered my question so I apologize for the question here. I love the booster pump and the simplicity of one pump spraying/ rinsing is cool
the nozzle design you showed is very innovative and simple. I guess that is why pictures are worth a thousand words...
But if you can apply SH with it that means it can pull from a dip stick out of your chem tank (or however you have your chem delivery plumbed).....if true then you should also be able to pull from your bulk water tank.
Water pressure is fine for me so 99% of the time so I don't necessarily need it for a volume rinse, but it would be a great tool for boosting my reach capabilities. How much farther can it reach vs the 12 volt set up? And if my primary intention was to purchase one for shooting farther would that be a good investment?
1/2" delivery hose?
I think I would then need a large buffer tank?
Paul got a video up today.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKpfSdNKdH_qLIFCe9MkmRx2tdSqXXlD1WfxcSb6pwEemQHlFZQ-VUQTFp9wyM737wRZ0Afr0XWLUZw1rfad0xdcqsmVag&v=5szEjZtSOPU
I have a lot of high colonial type homes and big mansions that due to pitch of roofs make hard to hit from ground and require a 32' or even 40'. would like an alternitive option and is there a minimum flow rate necc. for size of pump?
I just declared this Thread as the current info on the unit.
I'll try to help update the media from this revolutionary product.
The Inventor is here as well, Thanks
https://www.facebook.com/SprayWashFL/videos/1091242820887210/
Ramons Revolutionizing the Softwash World Softwashing
-- Edited by Ron Musgraves on Tuesday 13th of October 2015 08:05:17 PM
Un real !!!!!!!!!
This is pic with dials... This is my demo that is unused.