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Gutter Protection

vote(s)

Gutter Helmet $28 per ft.

8.3%

Contractor Screens Alum. $3.50 ft.

25.0%

Gutter Filter $7.00 FT

16.7%

Clean them out yearly, No Protection

50.0%

Art O said
Dec 21, 2013

What Gutter Protection product works best for you. I'm going to list 3 kinds. Please vote for the one you like best. Comment if you want on the product you like or don't like. If you just like cleaning them out. Tell us why.

waxman18324 said
Dec 21, 2013

Art,

We offer the installation of GutterStuff and cleanouts only. It's up to the customer. Curious... where did you get those numbers?

Hank

Art O said
Dec 21, 2013

That's what they get here on Long Island. Are they high or Low. I use the Screens, Clean and Screen $350 FT'

-- Edited by Art O on Saturday 21st of December 2013 06:32:51 PM

waxman18324 said
Dec 21, 2013

I'll have to raise my prices on filters.

Hank

Art O said
Dec 21, 2013

waxman18324 wrote:
I'll have to raise my prices on filters.
Hank

1/3 materiel 2/3 profit = making money

waxman18324 said
Dec 21, 2013

Art O wrote:
waxman18324 wrote:
I'll have to raise my prices on filters.
Hank
1/3 materiel 2/3 profit = making money

This reminds me that I need to put together some blogs or videos for gutter cleaning.
Hank

Art O said
Dec 21, 2013

waxman18324 wrote:
Art O wrote:
waxman18324 wrote:
I'll have to raise my prices on filters.
Hank
1/3 materiel 2/3 profit = making money

This reminds me that I need to put together some blogs or videos for gutter cleaning.
Hank

More Pictures, less Banners, all your doing is breeding newbie's

waxman18324 said
Dec 21, 2013

Art O wrote:
waxman18324 wrote:
Art O wrote:
waxman18324 wrote:
I'll have to raise my prices on filters.
Hank
1/3 materiel 2/3 profit = making money

This reminds me that I need to put together some blogs or videos for gutter cleaning.
Hank

More Pictures, less Banners, all your doing is breeding newbie's

Good point.
Hank

Chesapeake said
Dec 21, 2013

We offer gutter cleaning, but don't offer any type of gutter guard installation. Ive been considering adding this service, but just not sure how profitable it would be. These are the guards I was considering. buymbs.com/p-3405-us-aluminum-inc-shur-flo-gutter-guard.aspx They are similiar to Leaf Relief.

Art O said
Dec 21, 2013

These are the screens I use. I get 150' in a box for $85.00 +tax. They slide under the shingles and I zip screw them in. They work very good as long as the gutter has the correct pitch .

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Chesapeake said
Dec 21, 2013

Art, how long does it take you to install 120-150' on a ranch style home?

Art O said
Dec 21, 2013

Maybe a hour, but I did a job with a new roof last week, What a bitch. The roofer went by the book. He was a GAF Master Elite contractor. I couldn't get the under course to lift up. It really gave me a hard time getting the screens in. Most jobs go easy with these screens. Alum screens are more reasonably priced then some of the other stuff. You need to use 1/4" zip screws to hold them in.

Ed Thompson said
Dec 21, 2013

We dont even take gutter calls. Ive tried every which way to make $ but its just a big pita. We're sticking to our minimum of $500. Kudos to anyone who's making $ on gutters. (Real money, not beer money)

Art O said
Dec 22, 2013

Ed Thompson wrote:
We dont even take gutter calls. Ive tried every which way to make $ but its just a big pita. We're sticking to our minimum of $500. Kudos to anyone who's making $ on gutters. (Real money, not beer money)

There's money in the Screening Ed, not the Cleaning

Barry Landis said
Dec 22, 2013

I use Leaf Relief gutter protectors @ $2.00/ft to purchase (my price). I can sell installed for up to $12/ft, depending on how cut up the house is. They go on easy, are not visible from the ground, come in 10' lengths, and nothing gets in them. These are the only ones I will install. However, I just found another no name brand very similar but at half the cost that I will be trying shortly.

Jeff Wible said
Dec 22, 2013

Cleaning out the roof edge gutters is the easy part,..the pain is when the downspouts are plugged and need to be torn apart,..that's where you earn your money with gutter,...overall though,..it is decent hourly money.

Jeff

Barry Landis said
Dec 22, 2013

Chesapeake wrote:
We offer gutter cleaning, but don't offer any type of gutter guard installation. Ive been considering adding this service, but just not sure how profitable it would be. These are the guards I was considering. buymbs.com/p-3405-us-aluminum-inc-shur-flo-gutter-guard.aspx They are similiar to Leaf Relief.

I missed this post Chris. They are the ones I was thinking about trying.

Art O said
Dec 22, 2013

Barry Landis wrote:
Chesapeake wrote:
We offer gutter cleaning, but don't offer any type of gutter guard installation. Ive been considering adding this service, but just not sure how profitable it would be. These are the guards I was considering. buymbs.com/p-3405-us-aluminum-inc-shur-flo-gutter-guard.aspx They are similiar to Leaf Relief.
I missed this post Chris. They are the ones I was thinking about trying.

Accuwash said
Dec 29, 2013

We service gutters regularly within 1/2 hour of our local. We put out maybe 50 yard signs for it in November. We sell the service on contract for 2x a year, early June and early December, 1x early December or 2 x in fall etc. the problem we find is its situational. If they have pin oaks and certain other trees they need it in the spring too. Another issue is gutter protectors many times still need a cleaning once in a while. But if we try to sell an install it's hard to sell the Maintanance with them. And yet another issue is the market for installers is fundamentally flawed. (Big surprise right?). The flaw is that depending on the surrounding vegetation and the roof design not all gutter protectors will work on all homes, but gutter protector install companies are usually tied to a single product. So customers are left without the options and information they need to make an informed decision. Also to guys saying filters and stuff like that do you install the foam inserts? I ask because The foam inserts are really good at growing moss and we are good at getting paid to remove them after the first year or 2. We love when people install them and we get a call saying they are clogging the gutters rip them out. Just as much pay to rip them out as to put them in. Also those Basket strainers on the downspout hole we just through away when we find them. They are many time the only thing causing the gutter to clog. Our recommendation to our customers Is to hire regular cleaning maintenance from us or a landscaper, tree guy, roofer etc. and when they get a new roof or gutters to upgrade to the 5 inch instead of the standard 3 inch. It lets more go down the hole and out the pipe.

gutterdog said
Jan 1, 2014

Chesapeake wrote:
We offer gutter cleaning, but don't offer any type of gutter guard installation. Ive been considering adding this service, but just not sure how profitable it would be. These are the guards I was considering. buymbs.com/p-3405-us-aluminum-inc-shur-flo-gutter-guard.aspx They are similiar to Leaf Relief.

I got certified for leaf relief. Good money! Alcoa guarantees it. I used to install it until one day.Years ago. Before I tell you why I stopped, lets go over the 4 types of gutter guard first.

The 4 types of gutter guard:

Solid cover.

flat guard,

foam,

and this other one, the worst one. It's nothing but a huge pipe cleaner, simmilar to a pipe cleaner used to clean tobacco pipes. It is the worst one.

Now what do you want to offer your customer? Maintanance free guard right???

well there is no perfect guard. We will start from the bottom and work up. The pipe cleaner guard is worthless. Debris fall into it, has to be blown out not maintanance free. It wil protect the downspouts but not forever. I put foam and flat into the same catagory. They are both flat guard. Foam is worse than metal or vinyl flat guard, but the tops of this guard must be blown off atleast once a year. Leaf relief has this in the small print in the contract I would give them from leaf relief. Then there is the solid guard, gutter shutter, gutter monster, gutter helmet. To name a few. This is the closest to maintanance free. The problem with this guard. steep pitched roofs, durring heavy rains the guard doesnt work at all. What I mean is the rain doesnt go into the gutters, the water flys right off and hits the ground.

My oppinion is solid cover is the closest thing to maintanance free.

gutterdog said
Jan 1, 2014

I educate the customer, about what we have seen. over the years about guard. Any guard is better than nothing, even the lil bird cages in the downspout outlets Bill mentioned. It will buy you some time, before they need to be cleaned again. The bird cages, if you put them in, dont push them down too far. That lessens how long they will work. Everything I just said about guard above is what I tell people that ask. We have one, it is cheaper than the big companies and works the same way. Easy grand in a half a day!!! Without a guarantee you cant get a G.

The downside to gutter guard. You dont have someone on your roof every year looking for soft spots on the roof, flashing, gutter issues. I tell whoevers asks that too.

Andy Hinson said
Jan 1, 2014

I cant offer advice. I dont clean them or install.

Art O said
Jan 2, 2014

Your better off Andy. Gutter Cleaning is one job that Homeowners don't want to pay for.

John Aloisio said
Jan 2, 2014

We pretty much use gutter cleaning as an avenue into more business and new neighborhoods. I turned about 50% of the gutter cleaning estimates I went on into additional cleanings. Most of the time it was a roof cleaning.

TigerWash said
Jan 11, 2014

Barry Landis wrote:
I use Leaf Relief gutter protectors @ $2.00/ft to purchase (my price). I can sell installed for up to $12/ft, depending on how cut up the house is. They go on easy, are not visible from the ground, come in 10' lengths, and nothing gets in them. These are the only ones I will install. However, I just found another no name brand very similar but at half the cost that I will be trying shortly.

What is the new brand you found?

I currently offer gutter cleaning and am considering expanding into this.

Barry Landis said
Jan 11, 2014

TigerWash wrote:
Barry Landis wrote:
I use Leaf Relief gutter protectors @ $2.00/ft to purchase (my price). I can sell installed for up to $12/ft, depending on how cut up the house is. They go on easy, are not visible from the ground, come in 10' lengths, and nothing gets in them. These are the only ones I will install. However, I just found another no name brand very similar but at half the cost that I will be trying shortly.
What is the new brand you found?

I currently offer gutter cleaning and am considering expanding into this.

Chris from Chesapeake posted the link above. Shur-Flo is the brand.

njacobson said
Mar 8, 2016

ez screen micro mesh. easy install. powder coated. snaps into te contour of the gutter, not under shingle compromising the integrity of the roof/
also the shur flo is great as mentioned. but more pricey

Dave said
Mar 9, 2016

I install Extreme Gutter guards. They have a couple different designs. One that is a screen, that is good if there are pine trees or maples around, and another that is good if there are no trees, or maybe oaks. It is true, having guards does not make the gutter system maintenance free. All guards need to be cleaned off. I would say the worst guards out there are the gutter helmet type. If these get dirty, which they do, on the outside water will just run over the edge. We are always cleaning these darn things. As far as the cost, much more than what the survey says for screens. Of course the ones I use have a patent on the design and a 20 year warranty.

lkendall said
Mar 9, 2016

We install the upgraded version of what ^he mentioned.... We make BANK on these btw... The one system I found that actually works on pine needles.. not to mention all the other pluses.. www.rhinogutterguard.com/

Stinks though, min orders are 10k our cost

Dan Dykstra said
Mar 9, 2016

We sell, install and maintain Diamond Back gutter covers.

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