I know this subject has been discussed before but I wanted to post my own results. I used Herculiner on my van build exactly a year ago. It held up good , it flaked off on some spots but that was my own fault. When I bought the van it had a carpet like bed liner in it and it held water under the liner and rusted the floor real bad. I did not treat the rust properly and the Berliner flaked off on the areas that had rust, the rest of the liner held up awesome. I will be treating the rust properly this time and using Herculiner again. The local spray in liner company wanted $1200.00 to do this van, I bought herculiner for $90.00. Spray in bed liner is a much better product and would probably hold up a lot better but I felt like the spray in liner wasn't worth the investment.
1st) picture is the Herculiner.
2nd) picture is the floor of van 1 year ago. Look at were the rust is.
3rd) picture was whenI just finished herculiner 1 year ago
4th) picture is from yesterday after scraping off lose bedliner. Even thought it flaked in some spots it did not come off easy.
I will prep the rust properly this time and apply a 2nd coat of herculiner.
Regular Herculiner or Rhino liners don't hold up much more than 12 months to all the chems. I am actually taking one of my trucks to get a liner in the next two weeks. I had a Herculiner a because it was quick and cheap, but it did not do a great job. I researched a little and the best liner for chemicals is one that is polyurea based. i found a shop about 25 minutes from me who does it. It runs around 800 bucks for a pickup bed, tailgate and bumper.
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Dec 29, 2013
John where is this shop located?
Barry Landis said
Dec 29, 2013
jaloisio wrote:
Regular Herculiner or Rhino liners don't hold up much more than 12 months to all the chems. I am actually taking one of my trucks to get a liner in the next two weeks. I had a Herculiner a because it was quick and cheap, but it did not do a great job. I researched a little and the best liner for chemicals is one that is polyurea based. i found a shop about 25 minutes from me who does it. It runs around 800 bucks for a pickup bed, tailgate and bumper.
I might have to make a trip to NJ. That sounds like a great price for up in this area.
Brian C Jackson said
Dec 29, 2013
Herculiner worked great for me. The part under my tanks didn't flake at all. $800.00 for a truck is a good price however this van is an extended version van and is 12ft long from cab to the back doors and the bigger are was a higher price. I feel the herculiner worked awesome and well worth $90.00 I like tearing down my system and rebuilding with all new pipes ,hoses,filters and touching up bedliner isn't that big of a deal. I put Berliner in my truck 3 years ago and sprayed for a whole year out of the truck and the same hurculiner held up awesome.
-- Edited by Brian C Jackson on Sunday 29th of December 2013 09:25:47 AM
-- Edited by Brian C Jackson on Sunday 29th of December 2013 09:27:13 AM
Proper prep is the key to a longer lasting finish, but nothing will last forever. Especially with the abuse and the corrosive chemicals we use. We switched to a polyaspartic coating on the flatbed because it contains polyurea and holds up much better than a standard paint or epoxy.
-- Edited by Chesapeake on Sunday 29th of December 2013 10:12:31 AM
Proper prep is the key to a longer lasting finish, but nothing will last forever. Especially with the abuse and the corrosive chemicals we use. We switched to a polyaspartic coating on the flatbed because it contains polyurea and holds up much better than a standard paint or epoxy.
Chris your truck is awesome and is nicer in person, as i had a chance in Maryland to see it up close. Yout truck justifies a larger investment because of its value my van does noy justify $1200.00 spray liner. My van was a 2year investment I paid $6k for it and it was a quick fix to get me ouy of my old rig. The herculiner is no were close to as good as a comercial spray in liner, but i wanted to post my results for some of the new guys starting out that have a limited budget. Herculiner did work good for me and I know it will need to be done next year again, but with the snow here in NH i habe the time to break doen my van and rebuild it . It took me 2 days to tear it all out, will take me a week to rebuild it
-- Edited by Brian C Jackson on Sunday 29th of December 2013 10:30:23 AM
Thanks Brian! Sorry we didn't meet in Maryland. The day went by so fast. I totally agree with not spending the $1200 on spraying the inside of the van. After all I couldn't justify spending the money to spray my truck bed. The polyspartic coating costs less than $500 in materials. I think the Herculiner will last a couple years with a good prep, or even longer if you can minimize leaks by keeping all bulkheads in the top of the tanks, as you have done. I went with the polyaspartic because I didn't want to tear the truck down as often. The truck was previously coated with epoxy, which didn't last a year. One thing everyone should consider is the $ lost during down time. Is it worth spending the extra money up front or spending it in the time lost. This really depends on the length of your cleaning season, and if you can put your equipment inside during the winter months for recoating and repairs. After all, no one wants to tear their equipment down during the cleaning season.
BTW. The van looks great Brian. Very clean setup.
John Aloisio said
Dec 29, 2013
Sorry for the delay, after I posted that, I ran out for a few hours to Disney on Ice. The place in NJ is Rhino Liners of Galloway. You need pot ask for the Rhino Extreme. The Rhino Hybid is also polyurea based, but I don't think they stock it. Any Rhino liner place should have these products, and PPG paint company makes one as well, that any paint shop can buy and apply.
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Dec 29, 2013
John was that price for your dodge or ford?
Patrick G said
Dec 29, 2013
I used rhino liner three years ago no problems. I put two coats on but the trick is that I placed 3/4 plywood over it. That plywood has absorb more S/H then my roofs. It does hurt the wood but takes a good beating same piece of plywood three years.
John Aloisio said
Dec 29, 2013
The dodge...6' bed. I need to get the ford done as well with the 8'bed, not sure what tha will be. I might have John Scola at Jonco in town do it with an off brand one, I'm not sure yet.
Zach Maynard said
Dec 30, 2013
I did my Dodge with an Advanced Auto parts product and it was crap! Although I must say that the prep job may have been skimped on a bit...
Zach Maynard said
Dec 30, 2013
Brian are you going to be rebuilding it with the same layout?
Brian C Jackson said
Dec 30, 2013
Zach Maynard wrote:
Brian are you going to be rebuilding it with the same layout?
Zach im using same kind of layout with a few changes and a few improvements. I was very happy with the van set up but after using it for a few months and getting use to it i noticed a fewchanges i wanted to make. I wanted to wait untill season was over so I could do it right.
Zach Maynard said
Dec 30, 2013
I wish I could see it in person so I could tell you where all you're mistakes are! (chuckle chuckle)
I saw your missed call and got back to you but you must have been to busy baking cupcakes or something.
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Dec 30, 2013
John was that price for underneath the bed as well?
John Aloisio said
Dec 30, 2013
Not sure. I don't think so. It was a phone quoted price when I called.
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Dec 30, 2013
Thanks john.
RIP Rapid HotClean said
Dec 31, 2013
Patrick G wrote:
I used rhino liner three years ago no problems. I put two coats on but the trick is that I placed 3/4 plywood over it. That plywood has absorb more S/H then my roofs. It does hurt the wood but takes a good beating same piece of plywood three years.
That's a great idea!
Brian C Jackson said
Dec 31, 2013
Well I fixed and prep the rust and did 2 coats of Herculiner hope it is dry this morning. I will start the rebuilding today.
I had the Rhino Liner Extreme done today in my Dodge. It is the Polyurea based one that goes on between 1/8" & 1/4" thick. I dropped it off this morning at 8:30 and picked it up just after noon. They did the whole bed and tailgate, top rails & the bumper. It cost just under $650.00 with the NJ sales tax. I attached some pics. They guy John at Rhine Liners in Woodstown, NJ was great and very knowledgeable. Barry, this guy is 20 minutes from the bridge for you.
-- Edited by Zach Maynard on Wednesday 15th of January 2014 06:13:12 PM
Brian C Jackson said
Jan 15, 2014
That looks great. Nothing like a professional Berliner.
waxman18324 said
Jan 15, 2014
John
That looks sweet.
Hank
John Aloisio said
Jan 15, 2014
Thanks guys!! I am getting my Ford done when I get back from AC's Palooza.
Art O said
Jan 16, 2014
Look Great John
Barry Landis said
Jan 16, 2014
Looks good John.
So this isn't the standard Rhino Liner that they normally offer? Do they mention anything about holding up to SH in the warranty? I found one company (Line X) that mentions it holds up to Chlorine use but that was it. Either way - awesome price.
John Aloisio said
Jan 16, 2014
The regular one is polyurethane based, the Exteme is polyurea based, which is the base for lineX and hot spray. Polyurea is very chemical resistant. It cures to a much harder surface and has more durability also. The warranty does not specifically mention SH. It, like other warranties has many clauses that help the manufacturer. In my conversations with the guy at the dealer, I explained our process and he said it should hold up. We cleaned our trucks really good at the end of every day, as most everyone here probably does. Everything is taken out of the bed except our cradle skid, and thoroughly rinsed. I think almost any kind of liner would work, as long as it is maintained. I figure it is just another layer of protection and the price waS reasonable.
Brian C Jackson said
Jan 16, 2014
It is always a good idea to rinse out at the end of the day. If I spill any chem during the day and the job site permits it , I rinse out right then and there. If I have to wait until I get home it is OK, my driveway is a big hill so I just park the van on the hill and rinse it out .
I know this subject has been discussed before but I wanted to post my own results. I used Herculiner on my van build exactly a year ago. It held up good , it flaked off on some spots but that was my own fault. When I bought the van it had a carpet like bed liner in it and it held water under the liner and rusted the floor real bad. I did not treat the rust properly and the Berliner flaked off on the areas that had rust, the rest of the liner held up awesome. I will be treating the rust properly this time and using Herculiner again. The local spray in liner company wanted $1200.00 to do this van, I bought herculiner for $90.00. Spray in bed liner is a much better product and would probably hold up a lot better but I felt like the spray in liner wasn't worth the investment.
1st) picture is the Herculiner.
2nd) picture is the floor of van 1 year ago. Look at were the rust is.
3rd) picture was whenI just finished herculiner 1 year ago
4th) picture is from yesterday after scraping off lose bedliner. Even thought it flaked in some spots it did not come off easy.
I will prep the rust properly this time and apply a 2nd coat of herculiner.
Regular Herculiner or Rhino liners don't hold up much more than 12 months to all the chems. I am actually taking one of my trucks to get a liner in the next two weeks. I had a Herculiner a because it was quick and cheap, but it did not do a great job. I researched a little and the best liner for chemicals is one that is polyurea based. i found a shop about 25 minutes from me who does it. It runs around 800 bucks for a pickup bed, tailgate and bumper.
I might have to make a trip to NJ. That sounds like a great price for up in this area.
Herculiner worked great for me. The part under my tanks didn't flake at all. $800.00 for a truck is a good price however this van is an extended version van and is 12ft long from cab to the back doors and the bigger are was a higher price. I feel the herculiner worked awesome and well worth $90.00 I like tearing down my system and rebuilding with all new pipes ,hoses,filters and touching up bedliner isn't that big of a deal. I put Berliner in my truck 3 years ago and sprayed for a whole year out of the truck and the same hurculiner held up awesome.
-- Edited by Brian C Jackson on Sunday 29th of December 2013 09:25:47 AM
-- Edited by Brian C Jackson on Sunday 29th of December 2013 09:27:13 AM
Proper prep is the key to a longer lasting finish, but nothing will last forever. Especially with the abuse and the corrosive chemicals we use. We switched to a polyaspartic coating on the flatbed because it contains polyurea and holds up much better than a standard paint or epoxy.
-- Edited by Chesapeake on Sunday 29th of December 2013 10:12:31 AM
Chris your truck is awesome and is nicer in person, as i had a chance in Maryland to see it up close. Yout truck justifies a larger investment because of its value my van does noy justify $1200.00 spray liner. My van was a 2year investment I paid $6k for it and it was a quick fix to get me ouy of my old rig. The herculiner is no were close to as good as a comercial spray in liner, but i wanted to post my results for some of the new guys starting out that have a limited budget. Herculiner did work good for me and I know it will need to be done next year again, but with the snow here in NH i habe the time to break doen my van and rebuild it . It took me 2 days to tear it all out, will take me a week to rebuild it
-- Edited by Brian C Jackson on Sunday 29th of December 2013 10:30:23 AM
BTW. The van looks great Brian. Very clean setup.
Sorry for the delay, after I posted that, I ran out for a few hours to Disney on Ice. The place in NJ is Rhino Liners of Galloway. You need pot ask for the Rhino Extreme. The Rhino Hybid is also polyurea based, but I don't think they stock it. Any Rhino liner place should have these products, and PPG paint company makes one as well, that any paint shop can buy and apply.
The dodge...6' bed. I need to get the ford done as well with the 8'bed, not sure what tha will be. I might have John Scola at Jonco in town do it with an off brand one, I'm not sure yet.
Zach im using same kind of layout with a few changes and a few improvements. I was very happy with the van set up but after using it for a few months and getting use to it i noticed a fewchanges i wanted to make. I wanted to wait untill season was over so I could do it right.
I saw your missed call and got back to you but you must have been to busy baking cupcakes or something.
Not sure. I don't think so. It was a phone quoted price when I called.
That's a great idea!
Well I fixed and prep the rust and did 2 coats of Herculiner hope it is dry this morning. I will start the rebuilding today.
I had the Rhino Liner Extreme done today in my Dodge. It is the Polyurea based one that goes on between 1/8" & 1/4" thick. I dropped it off this morning at 8:30 and picked it up just after noon. They did the whole bed and tailgate, top rails & the bumper. It cost just under $650.00 with the NJ sales tax. I attached some pics. They guy John at Rhine Liners in Woodstown, NJ was great and very knowledgeable. Barry, this guy is 20 minutes from the bridge for you.
That came out great John.
-- Edited by Zach Maynard on Wednesday 15th of January 2014 06:13:12 PM
That looks great. Nothing like a professional Berliner.
That looks sweet.
Hank
Thanks guys!! I am getting my Ford done when I get back from AC's Palooza.
So this isn't the standard Rhino Liner that they normally offer? Do they mention anything about holding up to SH in the warranty? I found one company (Line X) that mentions it holds up to Chlorine use but that was it. Either way - awesome price.
The regular one is polyurethane based, the Exteme is polyurea based, which is the base for lineX and hot spray. Polyurea is very chemical resistant. It cures to a much harder surface and has more durability also. The warranty does not specifically mention SH. It, like other warranties has many clauses that help the manufacturer. In my conversations with the guy at the dealer, I explained our process and he said it should hold up. We cleaned our trucks really good at the end of every day, as most everyone here probably does. Everything is taken out of the bed except our cradle skid, and thoroughly rinsed. I think almost any kind of liner would work, as long as it is maintained. I figure it is just another layer of protection and the price waS reasonable.
It is always a good idea to rinse out at the end of the day. If I spill any chem during the day and the job site permits it , I rinse out right then and there. If I have to wait until I get home it is OK, my driveway is a big hill so I just park the van on the hill and rinse it out .