There has been alot of post on here about safty while roof cleaning, it may seem silly but I think we over looked a concern. I thought about it last year and took some precautions, but this year I really want to have a plan so any suggestions may be helpful. My concern is Pit bull attacks.....Okay stop laughing but think about it. I just heard a story two nights ago from a friend, he has a small business that travels him around the Island. He usually has to shred boxes outside of locations and has a box cutter. He said about a year ago he was in a parking lot when a pitbull who was left in the rear bed of a pickup truck jumped out and charged him. he was standing defenseless when the dog jump toward him, he swung his box cutter catching the dog in flight. He said the cut was so servere, the screams from the dog were unbearable as it laid there and died. The owner of the dog was going crazy and the cops were called. The cops found him not at fault and he was on his way. But we all have heard these stories atleast once a year, pitbulls or any dog. So I have a large knife in my trailor for this situation but that may not be good enough. What if there are only two of you, one on the roof,one on the ground? Sure you think spray it in the face with SH but I'm sure that would really hurt any injury to the victim. Last year I was a ground guy seperated from three of the neighbors pitbulls by a old chain link fence. These dogs were really looking to get me and their owner was sitting in the yard casually telling them to stop, I think he was enjoying it. So what did I have...a garden hose? Not really going to help. Equip everyone with a box cutter or knife? What about when you are walking on an estimate? By yourself? Any thoughts?
Zach Maynard said
Jan 10, 2014
It's not really a concern for me, I don't tend to see too many pit bulls. I usually see labs and golden retrievers if anything.
Jeff Wible said
Jan 10, 2014
Anytime I pull into a driveway, I look for signs of a dog, "Beware Of Dog" sign, box,.bowls, etc.. then I whistle for a dog and see if I get a response,..I also have dog treats with me,...they will usually quiet a barking dog and make friends,..unless he's just plain mean. But, I have never run into a men dog since I started this business in 1996. Lots of friendly dogs,...I had a lab once the home owner couldn't find,..she asked if I'd seen "Rocky"? I said no: Come to find he crawled up into my van and made his way to the front passenger seat and went to sleep,...I told her, "Hey, I found Rocky"
Jeff
SprayWash said
Jan 10, 2014
Pit bulls? What the hell are you washing, junkyards and meth labs?
Seriously though, all my guys carry pocketknives, and the night crew has something higher caliber in the truck. I have a CWP, so 90% of the time I'm packing.
lkendall said
Jan 10, 2014
^ ditto-- I just got the 380 bodyguard by smith and wesson for Christmas from the GF
Art O said
Jan 10, 2014
Carry a gun in NY without a Lic. and go to jail for about 10 years
waxman18324 said
Jan 10, 2014
Never had an issue with dogs up here in the sticks. As Jeff pointed out there are always tell tale signs if a dog is present. We do have utility knifes in the tool box but I don't see a need to have them on my person.
Our biggest concern is the stupid deer that run out in front of cars/trucks on a daily basis. The local body shops are filled with damaged vehicles due to the deer. In 17 years living up here I've hit two. One with my old Chevy Blazer. The only damage was a cracked grill. The other deer didn't have a snowballs chance in hell against a 2500 chevy, with the snow plow, doing 50mph.
Hank
Brian C Jackson said
Jan 10, 2014
Pat are we talking the american pit bull which is a cross bread or the original bitbull which is a stafshire terrier... I have experience here... and can help you.. no joke. For the last 30 years I have always had a dog trained in family protection. I have 2 dogs now that are trained.. But there is a Hugh difference in bit bull and stafshire terrier. There are ways to deal with either breed of these dogs
Brian C Jackson said
Jan 10, 2014
Zach Maynard wrote:
It's not really a concern for me, I don't tend to see too many pit bulls. I usually see labs and golden retrievers if anything.
Zack american Labs are easy to deal with, but i have 2 english breed Labs, one chocolate and one is white.. they are aprox 90lbs with the head size of a rottwieller. These Labs are no the hunting Labs these dogs are large and a ball of muscle. Buy instinct all dogs are protective doesnt matter if dogs are in there yard of in a car.
Patrick G said
Jan 10, 2014
I guess Im talking about the American pit bull. Last year two of them nearly killed a women while walking, I know her face was torn apart, scalp and so on. I'm not worried about dogs of the homeowners, I'm talking thesee stray pit bulls, they are not just in junk yards up this way. People get them and they get out and they are real nasty. They may be more common in sheeety areas but where this women was malled was a nice area. I think us guys up North...NY and NJ probably might have more of a risk. If your carry your guns around S/H be careful...just the fumes can rust things up and if you need it may not work. I once left S/H in a closed container in my shed over the winter....every wrench got a nice coat of rust.
Brian C Jackson said
Jan 10, 2014
OK
Bit Bull mixis over 100lbs
Stafshire Terrier is 50lbs
I would much rather face the pit bull mix.
Brian C Jackson said
Jan 10, 2014
Pat if you encounter a pit bull on the street do these steps
1 never look them in the eye
2 notice there ears and tail
3 never turn and run
4 if they come you give them your arm, don't kick.
5 once the bit bull bites your arm stick your other hand in the mouth and grab the upper jaw near the back of the throat. The pit bulls jaw has a natural gag reflex and will open up.. always give the dog your arm..
Zach Maynard said
Jan 10, 2014
Would gouging the eye in an attack help, someone told me that once.
lkendall said
Jan 10, 2014
^ I think thats for shark attack! But im sure it would
Brian C Jackson said
Jan 10, 2014
Dogs close there eyes when they bite and shake. No sense wasting time and energy on eye gougging.. the eyes are not biting you. Pit bulls are a fitting dog so punching or kicking them won't work. Trying to get there eyes also won't work. Bit bull hate to have there upper jaw and throat grabbed. It isn't a natural feeling for them. Big dogs get tired easily so the only chance you stand is endurance.. this is why Police dogs are Shepard's or Checlizavian Mallinwas.. Mali was are fast ,lean,never tire and have tremendous jaw pressure. Dog trainers use Belgium lined arm gloves because of dogs jaw pressure.
lkendall said
Jan 10, 2014
carry a loaded gun anywhere ( with one in the chamber ) you will go to jail if you don't have a permit..
Zach Maynard said
Jan 10, 2014
If I ever get attacked I'm gonna call either Lee or Ray to come take them out for me. lol
waxman18324 said
Jan 10, 2014
Hey Lee,
Just in case we get attacked set up a 800# so we can reach out to you. I'd hate to spend the money, on a call, while I'm having my arm torn off.
Hank
Zach Maynard said
Jan 10, 2014
Yeah that would be great Lee
Patrick G said
Jan 10, 2014
Thanks for the advice Brian, Not really sure if I can trust you.
There has been alot of post on here about safty while roof cleaning, it may seem silly but I think we over looked a concern. I thought about it last year and took some precautions, but this year I really want to have a plan so any suggestions may be helpful. My concern is Pit bull attacks.....Okay stop laughing but think about it. I just heard a story two nights ago from a friend, he has a small business that travels him around the Island. He usually has to shred boxes outside of locations and has a box cutter. He said about a year ago he was in a parking lot when a pitbull who was left in the rear bed of a pickup truck jumped out and charged him. he was standing defenseless when the dog jump toward him, he swung his box cutter catching the dog in flight. He said the cut was so servere, the screams from the dog were unbearable as it laid there and died. The owner of the dog was going crazy and the cops were called. The cops found him not at fault and he was on his way. But we all have heard these stories atleast once a year, pitbulls or any dog. So I have a large knife in my trailor for this situation but that may not be good enough. What if there are only two of you, one on the roof,one on the ground? Sure you think spray it in the face with SH but I'm sure that would really hurt any injury to the victim. Last year I was a ground guy seperated from three of the neighbors pitbulls by a old chain link fence. These dogs were really looking to get me and their owner was sitting in the yard casually telling them to stop, I think he was enjoying it. So what did I have...a garden hose? Not really going to help. Equip everyone with a box cutter or knife? What about when you are walking on an estimate? By yourself? Any thoughts?
Jeff
Seriously though, all my guys carry pocketknives, and the night crew has something higher caliber in the truck. I have a CWP, so 90% of the time I'm packing.
Our biggest concern is the stupid deer that run out in front of cars/trucks on a daily basis. The local body shops are filled with damaged vehicles due to the deer. In 17 years living up here I've hit two. One with my old Chevy Blazer. The only damage was a cracked grill. The other deer didn't have a snowballs chance in hell against a 2500 chevy, with the snow plow, doing 50mph.
Hank
Pat are we talking the american pit bull which is a cross bread or the original bitbull which is a stafshire terrier... I have experience here... and can help you.. no joke. For the last 30 years I have always had a dog trained in family protection. I have 2 dogs now that are trained.. But there is a Hugh difference in bit bull and stafshire terrier. There are ways to deal with either breed of these dogs
Zack american Labs are easy to deal with, but i have 2 english breed Labs, one chocolate and one is white.. they are aprox 90lbs with the head size of a rottwieller. These Labs are no the hunting Labs these dogs are large and a ball of muscle. Buy instinct all dogs are protective doesnt matter if dogs are in there yard of in a car.
OK
Bit Bull mixis over 100lbs
Stafshire Terrier is 50lbs
I would much rather face the pit bull mix.
Pat if you encounter a pit bull on the street do these steps
1 never look them in the eye
2 notice there ears and tail
3 never turn and run
4 if they come you give them your arm, don't kick.
5 once the bit bull bites your arm stick your other hand in the mouth and grab the upper jaw near the back of the throat. The pit bulls jaw has a natural gag reflex and will open up.. always give the dog your arm..
Dogs close there eyes when they bite and shake. No sense wasting time and energy on eye gougging.. the eyes are not biting you. Pit bulls are a fitting dog so punching or kicking them won't work. Trying to get there eyes also won't work. Bit bull hate to have there upper jaw and throat grabbed. It isn't a natural feeling for them. Big dogs get tired easily so the only chance you stand is endurance.. this is why Police dogs are Shepard's or Checlizavian Mallinwas.. Mali was are fast ,lean,never tire and have tremendous jaw pressure. Dog trainers use Belgium lined arm gloves because of dogs jaw pressure.
carry a loaded gun anywhere ( with one in the chamber ) you will go to jail if you don't have a permit..
Hey Lee,
Just in case we get attacked set up a 800# so we can reach out to you. I'd hate to spend the money, on a call, while I'm having my arm torn off.
Hank