I am looking for a surfactant to add to 4% dilution SH for roof cleaning. I am aware of Green wash from AC and have heard of Lemonator. Can anyone share any other product worth trying with a variety of fragrance etc.
What do you recommend? Where can I get it?
Thanks again.
Steve Salley said
Mar 27, 2014
Hello Nick from Down Under!
We use a product called Roof Snot, and love it. The roofs come clean quicker and with less SH in the mix.
We get it from Russ Johnson of Southside Equipment in KY.
www.roofsnot.com the video on the site is Doug Rucker from Houston Tx spraying Roof Snot. He as well as many other swear by this stuff.
Russ would be the one to talk to about how to get it Down Under.. Maybe you can become his Australia Distributor!
Doug Rucker said
Mar 27, 2014
ROOF SNOT it s all i use for roof cleaning and house washing
BlueRidge said
Mar 28, 2014
After a little time tweaking the mix, I am now using Bio-Gel.
Art O said
Mar 28, 2014
BlueRidge wrote:
After a little time tweaking the mix, I am now using Bio-Gel.
Kim was recomending that stuff about 6 months ago. How is it Bret?
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Mar 28, 2014
Roof snot is great for house washing. Put a little lemon sent and wash away. Windows have been a non issue.
lkendall said
Mar 28, 2014
Guys shipping alone would bankrupt this guy... He is in Australia! Start with dish soap from the local store.. Then see if you can get ammonyx-lo from your chem. supplier..
Art O said
Mar 28, 2014
lkendall wrote:
Guys shipping alone would bankrupt this guy... He is in Australia! Start with dish soap from the local store.. Then see if you can get ammonyx-lo from your chem. supplier..
Steve Salley said
Mar 28, 2014
Lee agree with that.
I was suggesting he contact Russ in case he could give him so "chemistry lessons" on the product
Kim R said
Mar 28, 2014
There is suppliers for Am Lo in Australia , Here is one to contact is
If you research a bit you should be able to find a good local supplier for what you need, The Stepan CO actually has a couple surfactants you may want to try the Ammonyx SO Ammonyx Lo Ammonyx Lo SPecial and there is a ton more..
I have put a mail in to Russ . Your right its the shipping cost that kills it.
Thanks for the link to AM LO. manufactured here by Orica and will have no trouble chasing the line to get to a supplier that has it in manageable packaging.
Due you add your own fragrance to this and if so what do you use. Lemons and pine and Rain fresh and Cherry are all out there. Whats the best way to get it into solution on the softwash tank?
Thanks again
Nick
BlueRidge said
Mar 29, 2014
Art O wrote:
BlueRidge wrote:
After a little time tweaking the mix, I am now using Bio-Gel.
Kim was recomending that stuff about 6 months ago. How is it Bret?
I have been using it for about a year now. It took some playing with as I finally got it to work with my system. Gary gave me a few buckets to help figure out the mix with 12V pumps. Gary uses an air pump so the mix is different and he also mixes one large tank for the day. He has also changed the formula and now has the gel in it's final state. The 5 gals. delivered is cut in half so you end up with 10 gals. The gel has worked well for me.
Steve Salley said
Mar 29, 2014
Brett
Does it just add stick to the SH or is there other components that add to it's cleaning power when mixed with SH?
BlueRidge said
Mar 30, 2014
Steve Salley wrote:
Brett Does it just add stick to the SH or is there other components that add to it's cleaning power when mixed with SH?
I got this from Gary to make sure I didn't mess things up.
"Our biogel is an extremely concentrated roof cleaning surfactant. It not only adds stick/dwell to your SH but we also incorporate about a dozen designer chemicals into our formulations that add to the cleaning power of SH. Bio Gel can also be used as a foaming agent the consistency of shaving cream if air is introduced during the application. Our product has long lasting organic algaecides mixed in that will give each cleaning a longevity other products don't offer." He also said, "they can call me at anytime with any questions about our products I'd love to hear from them."
SprayWash said
Mar 30, 2014
In the hood cleaning I'm using a AFF for my surfactant and foam creation. It's basically what they make firefighting foam out of. It is stable with the sodium hydroxide, so I'm assuming it is stable or compatible with other alkalines like sodium hypo. Next time I have a casual day I'm going to try to "foam " a roof!
Maverick Contracting said
Feb 1, 2017
Posting this here so not to start new topic. If anyone is curious of SLS if hazardous
SLS pure powdered form
"Biodegradability --Product is readily biodegradable"
"Product Description
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate Powder is often used as a foaming agent in many common products: Bath products, shampoos, foaming powders and more
Highly Active, high quality SLS Powdered sodium lauryl sulfate. Useful in powdered or tablet or blended liquid hard surface and carpet cleaners, powdered bubble baths, and cleansing preparations, scouring and foaming agent in textile and industial applications Also used in powdered hand cleaners and powdered bath preparations. Even used in liquid hand soaps and shampoos." AND marshmallows
-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Wednesday 1st of February 2017 07:56:07 AM
What is everyone using as of recently?
Feel free to add to list and maybe we can then start a poll.
-ROOF SNOT
-STICK UP
-CLING ON
-TALON
-DRAGON JUICE
-GREENWASH
-ORIGINAL DAWN/GAIN
-POWDERED PURE SLS
(Sodium Laureth Sulfate)
-others?
Also how thick are they and do you find some thinner/thicker depending where your sources are from? (possibly diluted)
Chris said
Nov 6, 2021
BlueRidge wrote:
After a little time tweaking the mix, I am now using Bio-Gel.
I clicked on that link and it is not working, does anyone know if they have a new website or other link?
BlueRidge said
Nov 7, 2021
Chris wrote:
BlueRidge wrote:
After a little time tweaking the mix, I am now using Bio-Gel.
I clicked on that link and it is not working, does anyone know if they have a new website or other link?
Wow Chris... you are really doing some research and finding some older posts!
Gary gave up on Bio-Gel. It worked great in batch mixing. We are using Arm & Hammer laundry detergent with an additive we get locally. We have an inexpensive mix that sticks and works well with the booster and 12v pumps.
Admin said
Nov 7, 2021
I've been using Buck a bottle dish soap from Dollar Tree Works fine
Jeff Wible said
Nov 11, 2021
You know,..I stumbled upon something this year that really seem to make a difference in roof cleaning. I've always liked to spray in the morning hours due to no Sun drying, and no wind. I never wanted to spray a damp roof,..but this year I sprayed several that were on the edge of being wet. The mix....when applied properly doesn't run off like you'd think,...and the mix seems to penetrate very well. I think it's due to the semi-damp roof already having the surface tension broke? Actually used less mix on those roofs.
Jeff
BlueRidge said
Nov 17, 2021
Jeff Wible wrote:
You know,..I stumbled upon something this year that really seem to make a difference in roof cleaning. I've always liked to spray in the morning hours due to no Sun drying, and no wind. I never wanted to spray a damp roof,..but this year I sprayed several that were on the edge of being wet. The mix....when applied properly doesn't run off like you'd think,...and the mix seems to penetrate very well. I think it's due to the semi-damp roof already having the surface tension broke? Actually used less mix on those roofs.
Jeff
I completely agree Jeff. The damp roof is just like pre wetting concrete for certain cleanings. We always try to schedule roof cleaning for mornings in hot weather. They go faster and seldom have call backs.
Jeff Wible said
Nov 18, 2021
Yea Brett,..dampening concrete prior to chemical application definitely makes a difference. I actually do that with decks as well. I've been doing it on concrete and decks for a long time,..never really considered it for roofs until this year.
Jeff
BlueRidge said
Nov 18, 2021
Jeff Wible wrote:
Yea Brett,..dampening concrete prior to chemical application definitely makes a difference. I actually do that with decks as well. I've been doing it on concrete and decks for a long time,..never really considered it for roofs until this year.
Jeff
I noticed how much better the mix stayed when I sprayed a roof to cool it off. The mix pretty much stayed in the area sprayed with few fingers running. It just takes a little longer.
G'Day again.
I am looking for a surfactant to add to 4% dilution SH for roof cleaning. I am aware of Green wash from AC and have heard of Lemonator. Can anyone share any other product worth trying with a variety of fragrance etc.
What do you recommend? Where can I get it?
Thanks again.
We use a product called Roof Snot, and love it. The roofs come clean quicker and with less SH in the mix.
We get it from Russ Johnson of Southside Equipment in KY.
www.roofsnot.com the video on the site is Doug Rucker from Houston Tx spraying Roof Snot. He as well as many other swear by this stuff.
Russ would be the one to talk to about how to get it Down Under.. Maybe you can become his Australia Distributor!
After a little time tweaking the mix, I am now using Bio-Gel.
Kim was recomending that stuff about 6 months ago. How is it Bret?
I was suggesting he contact Russ in case he could give him so "chemistry lessons" on the product
There is suppliers for Am Lo in Australia , Here is one to contact is
http://www.stepan.com/default.aspx
Or you can but online here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lauryl-Dimethylamine-Oxide-Ammonyx-Surfactant/dp/B00EIGFVP6
If you research a bit you should be able to find a good local supplier for what you need, The Stepan CO actually has a couple surfactants you may want to try the Ammonyx SO Ammonyx Lo Ammonyx Lo SPecial and there is a ton more..
Here: http://www.stepan.com/products/product-finder.aspx?category=Surfactants
Thanks fella's
I have put a mail in to Russ . Your right its the shipping cost that kills it.
Thanks for the link to AM LO. manufactured here by Orica and will have no trouble chasing the line to get to a supplier that has it in manageable packaging.
Due you add your own fragrance to this and if so what do you use. Lemons and pine and Rain fresh and Cherry are all out there. Whats the best way to get it into solution on the softwash tank?
Thanks again
Nick
I have been using it for about a year now. It took some playing with as I finally got it to work with my system. Gary gave me a few buckets to help figure out the mix with 12V pumps. Gary uses an air pump so the mix is different and he also mixes one large tank for the day. He has also changed the formula and now has the gel in it's final state. The 5 gals. delivered is cut in half so you end up with 10 gals. The gel has worked well for me.
Does it just add stick to the SH or is there other components that add to it's cleaning power when mixed with SH?
I got this from Gary to make sure I didn't mess things up.
"Our biogel is an extremely concentrated roof cleaning surfactant. It not only adds stick/dwell to your SH but we also incorporate about a dozen designer chemicals into our formulations that add to the cleaning power of SH. Bio Gel can also be used as a foaming agent the consistency of shaving cream if air is introduced during the application. Our product has long lasting organic algaecides mixed in that will give each cleaning a longevity other products don't offer." He also said, "they can call me at anytime with any questions about our products I'd love to hear from them."
Posting this here so not to start new topic.
If anyone is curious of SLS if hazardous
SLS pure powdered form
"Biodegradability --Product is readily biodegradable"
"Product Description
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate Powder is often used as a foaming agent in many common products: Bath products, shampoos, foaming powders and more
Highly Active, high quality SLS Powdered sodium lauryl sulfate. Useful in powdered or tablet or blended liquid hard surface and carpet cleaners, powdered bubble baths, and cleansing preparations, scouring and foaming agent in textile and industial applications Also used in powdered hand cleaners and powdered bath preparations. Even used in liquid hand soaps and shampoos."
AND marshmallows
-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Wednesday 1st of February 2017 07:56:07 AM
What is everyone using as of recently?
Feel free to add to list and maybe we can then start a poll.
-ROOF SNOT
-STICK UP
-CLING ON
-TALON
-DRAGON JUICE
-GREENWASH
-ORIGINAL DAWN/GAIN
-POWDERED PURE SLS
(Sodium Laureth Sulfate)
-others?
Also how thick are they and do you find some thinner/thicker depending where your sources are from? (possibly diluted)
I clicked on that link and it is not working, does anyone know if they have a new website or other link?
Wow Chris... you are really doing some research and finding some older posts!
Gary gave up on Bio-Gel. It worked great in batch mixing. We are using Arm & Hammer laundry detergent with an additive we get locally. We have an inexpensive mix that sticks and works well with the booster and 12v pumps.
Jeff
I completely agree Jeff. The damp roof is just like pre wetting concrete for certain cleanings. We always try to schedule roof cleaning for mornings in hot weather. They go faster and seldom have call backs.
Jeff
I noticed how much better the mix stayed when I sprayed a roof to cool it off. The mix pretty much stayed in the area sprayed with few fingers running. It just takes a little longer.