I love to help people out, don't get me wrong... But its getting old now when I have 4 people a day calling me for information on roof cleaning or what they are doing wrong.. WHEN THEY ARE STANDING ON THE ROOF WITH A PRESSURE WASHER!
Im not sure why I get these calls, maybe they see I am young so they think they can get more info out of me rather than a older guy?? Who knows, but I took my you-tube videos down of my setups in hopes that will slow down the calls.
I can't be giving away my secrets that I have worked for 3 years on perfecting so that Jim-bob down the road who I quote, "cants makes a living off cutting grass" can jump right on board...
So there for Ive implemented a $100 PER CALL... You get me for 10 min...
Unless your from the boards of course! Does this happen to anyone else??
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Apr 18, 2014
Lee I get people all the time calling I just give them this website and tell them good luck. If I see them sign up then I'll call them back and talk.
Steve Salley said
Apr 18, 2014
Lee I agree wholeheartedly.
While I have been given so much help thru the boards, I still had to spend my dime educating myself which included flying to Texas to be tutored by Doug Rucker.
I stopped giving do it yourselfers advice ever since I had an accident with SH in my eyes and did not know if they were going to heal or not for 5 days.
This business model is simple, but there is a lot of time investment that a person has to be willing to invest before a little information will not do more harm than good.
I am amazed how many guys watch You Tube and see how easy it is to clean roofs "wrong" and then grab a pressure washer without any training and then expect it to be the golden ticket!
Barry Landis said
Apr 18, 2014
We get the calls here also. I was going to start charging for consultations and still might depending on their locations. Most of the time they call and say " Since I'm not in your area, can you help me?" After being on these boards the last five years, you get to know other guys in "those areas" and it may effect them.
If I get a call and the guy is willing to pay for the consultation, I'll check around first to see who is already set up in the area in question. If I know the guy already in that area, I'll check with them first to see what there input is regarding a new start up in their area before helping anyone. I'm not looking to step on anyone's toes here and I would hope others would do the same for me.
Art O said
Apr 18, 2014
I had a local guy call yesterday asking about Gutter Cleaner. I sent him to Bob and told him to go to the PT forum.
Doug Rucker said
Apr 18, 2014
Get 10-12 a day. If i know them,or they are referred by someone I know, I help them. If not they can join my web based school, and once they have taken that we can talk by phone. I no longer give keys to the city unless I know who they are, the kind of equipment they have invested in, etc. It's not fair to me or others.
lkendall said
Apr 18, 2014
ok well at least im not the only one who gets these calls!
SprayWash said
Apr 18, 2014
I'm getting tons of call from people who want to get into the PW industry. Most want "free training " or are willing to donate a couple days labor. Anybody who calls me knows I love to help others. I also get probably 2-3 calls per week from Softwashsytems since I am a member of the Pro-staff.
Lately I've been getting more and more calls from people who want training who are located in/near to my market area. These folks could eve eventually become direct competition . Not sure how I feel about that.
Any thoughs?
Patrick G said
Apr 18, 2014
We all get the calls, I guess nothing you can do about it. But I agree with Barry I don't want togive out info that could hurt someone on here.
Ed Thompson said
Apr 19, 2014
I do like Steven Segal. If they want to learn how to kill mold we first light some incense and learn to heal the mold. Total Zen.
John Aloisio said
Apr 19, 2014
If someone calls I give them roof shampoos phone number
Brian C Jackson said
Apr 19, 2014
The only calls I have gotten are from guys right here in NH and I have helped them all. Competition is competition and I have dealt with it in Building and Remodeling for 26 years. I honestly don't sweat competition and that isn't because I'm ****y it is because if you are professional over the phone and look professional and act it, people will hire you over your competition even if you are higher on price. This means not only having professional web site but matching vehicles and uniforms and nice business cards. Always dress neat and shave andddon't smell like cigarettes or booze and never swear. But on one last note I would never ever do this to anyone of the friends of associates here NSWA, I would never share anything that would hurt any of the guys that helped train me and I mean that...( but I would train someone for free if he was Pat s neighbor)..
Andy Hinson said
Apr 19, 2014
People that offer free labor do not understand the knowledge they are gaining just by viewing your operation and your set up. If someone new is working with you they are mostly in the way or have to be told every move to make. new people must be taught, explained too, supervised, trained. It's stressful and very time consuming.
There is no way that should be free!. I was thinking I need to spend a week with you just to watch what you have figured out that works. Water booster pump for example. And I do what you do just with different equipment.
Supervising and training should have a price!
PRISTINE ROOF CLEANING said
Apr 19, 2014
Guys.. Please do not offer any advise... Lets keep what we do on the down low.. PLEASE! Im telling you we have a good thing. Back in the day to gross $1500 in a day took a bucket truck, a chipper truck, a chipper, a stump grinder, a chit load of ropes & gear & 4 men..... now im doing it with 1 guy & 1 truck.. PLEASE! Keep it to our selves....
This is not a game....
Patrick G said
Apr 19, 2014
Sorry Dan, I have a book coming out......
PRISTINE ROOF CLEANING said
Apr 20, 2014
JACK NUT...... lol
gutterdog said
Apr 20, 2014
Why dont I get these calls???? I feel left out :(
Dan Dykstra said
Apr 20, 2014
Send them all to Roof Shampoo for instruction like John said. They can all learn how to use the surface cleaner on the roof
Softwash Australia said
Apr 20, 2014
Feeling a little bit like those guys making the call. I am a bit special I suppose as I am in no way competition to your market. I have come here to gather as much info and assistance as I can get. believe me I appreciate it and intend to grow a great business and hopefully an industry on it here in Aus.
There is a fine line between being helpful and selling your intellectual integrity for nothing. Take KFC for instants. 13 Special secret herbs and spices. They never gave that info up and try as they might no other chicken franchise got near them.
If you put a price on that integrity like $100.00 you'll scare off the tire kickers and sort the hay from the chaff.
Its probably the only way to see whose fair dinkum.
Dave O said
Apr 21, 2014
John Aloisio wrote:
If someone calls I give them roof shampoos phone number
LOL. Or you can advise them to try a sand blaster to remove the algae.
Maverick Contracting said
Apr 21, 2014
Dave O wrote:
John Aloisio wrote:
If someone calls I give them roof shampoos phone number
LOL. Or you can advise them to try a sand blaster to remove the algae.
Like many on the forum, I have been helped a lot--- by many of you seasoned experts and we are grateful for the direction. I also invested money in training with Doug Rucker, so I have mixed feelings about sitting down and handing the whole business to a person on the phone.
There is a lot of investment capital that has to go with the dream of being a business owner of any new endeavor.
This is still one of the least expensive businesses we have ever started, but the tab grows daily as does the receipts.
I guess this is why AC, uglies, powerwashstore,etc have elected to be vendors and trainers. I am going to direct new traffic to them.
We will always help forum guys who are investing in education and equipment etc to do this business right. I want to give back for all the help!
PRISTINE ROOF CLEANING said
Apr 21, 2014
Yea! whats up with the roof shampoo guys?? How do they get that thing up there in the first place? what do they do on a 12 pitch?
Freacking weired man!!!!
Dave O said
Apr 22, 2014
With all the steep complex roofs I've safely cleaned from the ladder, one would have to be crazy to lug a shampooer on the roof!
I love to help people out, don't get me wrong... But its getting old now when I have 4 people a day calling me for information on roof cleaning or what they are doing wrong.. WHEN THEY ARE STANDING ON THE ROOF WITH A PRESSURE WASHER!
Im not sure why I get these calls, maybe they see I am young so they think they can get more info out of me rather than a older guy?? Who knows, but I took my you-tube videos down of my setups in hopes that will slow down the calls.
I can't be giving away my secrets that I have worked for 3 years on perfecting so that Jim-bob down the road who I quote, "cants makes a living off cutting grass" can jump right on board...
So there for Ive implemented a $100 PER CALL... You get me for 10 min...
Unless your from the boards of course! Does this happen to anyone else??
While I have been given so much help thru the boards, I still had to spend my dime educating myself which included flying to Texas to be tutored by Doug Rucker.
I stopped giving do it yourselfers advice ever since I had an accident with SH in my eyes and did not know if they were going to heal or not for 5 days.
This business model is simple, but there is a lot of time investment that a person has to be willing to invest before a little information will not do more harm than good.
I am amazed how many guys watch You Tube and see how easy it is to clean roofs "wrong" and then grab a pressure washer without any training and then expect it to be the golden ticket!
If I get a call and the guy is willing to pay for the consultation, I'll check around first to see who is already set up in the area in question. If I know the guy already in that area, I'll check with them first to see what there input is regarding a new start up in their area before helping anyone. I'm not looking to step on anyone's toes here and I would hope others would do the same for me.
Lately I've been getting more and more calls from people who want training who are located in/near to my market area. These folks could eve eventually become direct competition . Not sure how I feel about that.
Any thoughs?
If someone calls I give them roof shampoos phone number
The only calls I have gotten are from guys right here in NH and I have helped them all. Competition is competition and I have dealt with it in Building and Remodeling for 26 years. I honestly don't sweat competition and that isn't because I'm ****y it is because if you are professional over the phone and look professional and act it, people will hire you over your competition even if you are higher on price. This means not only having professional web site but matching vehicles and uniforms and nice business cards. Always dress neat and shave andddon't smell like cigarettes or booze and never swear. But on one last note I would never ever do this to anyone of the friends of associates here NSWA, I would never share anything that would hurt any of the guys that helped train me and I mean that...( but I would train someone for free if he was Pat s neighbor)..
People that offer free labor do not understand the knowledge they are gaining just by viewing your operation and your set up. If someone new is working with you they are mostly in the way or have to be told every move to make. new people must be taught, explained too, supervised, trained. It's stressful and very time consuming.
There is no way that should be free!. I was thinking I need to spend a week with you just to watch what you have figured out that works. Water booster pump for example. And I do what you do just with different equipment.
Supervising and training should have a price!
This is not a game....
There is a fine line between being helpful and selling your intellectual integrity for nothing. Take KFC for instants. 13 Special secret herbs and spices. They never gave that info up and try as they might no other chicken franchise got near them.
If you put a price on that integrity like $100.00 you'll scare off the tire kickers and sort the hay from the chaff.
Its probably the only way to see whose fair dinkum.
LOL. Or you can advise them to try a sand blaster to remove the algae.
don't forget the digging bar to take off the moss
i love it!!
There is a lot of investment capital that has to go with the dream of being a business owner of any new endeavor.
This is still one of the least expensive businesses we have ever started, but the tab grows daily as does the receipts.
I guess this is why AC, uglies, powerwashstore,etc have elected to be vendors and trainers. I am going to direct new traffic to them.
We will always help forum guys who are investing in education and equipment etc to do this business right. I want to give back for all the help!
Freacking weired man!!!!