I have took people's advice and done all the reading on downstreaming that I can find.
I can tell that I should buy a remote box soap box. Can anyone tell me what name brand is the best to use. I'm sure I'm going to want a high frequency one so I can shut the soap off with out having line of sight. Any info will be appreciated ty.
I'll also need a bypass hose and ball valve but I understand pressure tek is the place to go for that. Right?
Bryan P said
May 28, 2016
I just got a ball valve and I can't believe I lived without one. I don't downstream, but I love it for rinsing driveways and not having to cut my washer off to switch between the wand and the surface cleaner.
I got this one and it's really nice (http://www.pressuretek.com/hedubava.html). Go ahead and pop the little silver cap off and throw it away though. It's gonna fall off anyway.
Bryan P said
May 28, 2016
Russ Johnson at Southside Equipment has the remote everybody uses.
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 28, 2016
Awesome ty
Maverick Contracting said
May 29, 2016
Found this the other day, don't know how well it works but has a ball valve
Everybody doesn't use Russ Johnsons $275.00 remote,..I know some do,..but some just make their own for way less,..I know for a fact one can be made for around $50.00 and can be made to operate in a few minutes,.and be plumbed in and ready to use in less than a half hour.,.and end up with just as good a unit. And will work easily through any obstacles you encounter.
The $275.00 remote can be made with the same components for less than $100.00.
(Which frankly aren't much better than the cheaper components,..especially the key fob remote that comes with $275.00 unit) The Dema 481P is a good valve though,..but not worth the extra expense,..you can (6) of the cheaper ones for the cost of one Dema,.. and will work just as well,..and actually have Viton plunger,.The stock Dema is EPDM.
You can make your own remote very easily,.there are posts on this site that I made a few months ago that will give you the details.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 29th of May 2016 05:56:20 AM
Jeff Wible said
May 29, 2016
Maverick,..I doubt that is for high pressure. Iv'e seen those and they are made for the end of a garden hose.
Jeff
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 29, 2016
Jeff Wible wrote:
Everybody doesn't use Russ Johnsons $275.00 remote,..I know some do,..but some just make their own for way less,..I know for a fact one can be made for around $50.00 and can be made to operate in a few minutes,.and be plumbed in and ready to use in less than a half hour.,.and end up with just as good a unit. And will work easily through any obstacles you encounter.
The $275.00 remote can be made with the same components for less than $100.00.
(Which frankly aren't much better than the cheaper components,..especially the key fob remote that comes with $275.00 unit) The Dema 481P is a good valve though,..but not worth the extra expense,..you can (6) of the cheaper ones for the cost of one Dema,.. and will work just as well,..and actually have Viton plunger,.The stock Dema is EPDM.
You can make your own remote very easily,.there are posts on this site that I made a few months ago that will give you the details.
Jeff
Great. I'm all about cheaper lol . I'll try to find that post ty
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 29th of May 2016 05:56:20 AM
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 29, 2016
Jeff I couldn't find that post you made on how to build one. If you could tell me the subject name so I can search for it. Ty
Art O said
May 29, 2016
A_J Pressure Washing wrote:
Jeff I couldn't find that post you made on how to build one. If you could tell me the subject name so I can search for it. Ty
Ty art, but for some reason it says I don't have permission to view that private content
You need to get 50 quality posts to get into that area
-- Edited by Art O on Sunday 29th of May 2016 10:41:27 AM
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 29, 2016
Hummmm ok guess I'll just learn that later
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 29, 2016
But ty Art
Jeff Wible said
May 29, 2016
You have a remote with power (4) wires,..two come in from the battery and two go out to the solenoid. Viola,..you have a working remote. Add hose barbs to the solenoid,..the soap injector hose plugs into these barbs,..one in to your bucket and one to the soap injector.. the remote solenoid is now spliced between your soap bucket and injector. Very simple,...you now have a working DS remote.
*Actually,.you would add the hose barbs to the solenoid before the wiring,..but I was trying to make it simple.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 29th of May 2016 12:48:31 PM
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 29, 2016
Ty Jeff. I know all that sounds simple to you but yea im lost lolol .
But thank you anyway
Jeff Wible said
May 30, 2016
Yea I hear what you're saying,.but it IS simple. You don't even need a battery powered pressure washer to have one,..I have a spare stand alone remote unit that can be simply spliced in the soap injector line and be working in about a minute.
This unit costs about $50.00- $60-00 to make which includes the battery to operate it and the box to house it.
*Anita,.I used to think they have to be complicated as well,..until I put one together,..really VERY simple.
Jeff
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 30, 2016
Would you by chance want to sell that spare one? Lol
Jeff Wible said
May 30, 2016
Sure,..I will sell it to you and you can then look at it and see how simple it is and then maybe make the next one yourself,..which will be your spare. Let me get a shipping cost tomorrow and we will make arrangements from there. I will charge you only what I have in it +Shipping.
I actually have (3) remote units,..two on board and the other spare on standby,..which is the one I will sell you.
Do you have a Pay-Pal account?
Jeff
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 30, 2016
Awesome ty.
Yes I have paypal
Jeff Wible said
May 30, 2016
Ok,..let me get the shipping cost tomorrow and we will go from there.
Jeff
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 30, 2016
Sounds like a plan Jeff. Ty
Jeff Wible said
May 30, 2016
Ok,..in the meantime,.you need to get an understanding how downstreaming works.
Jeff
Jeff Wible said
May 30, 2016
And also remember that DS'ing will NOT do for roof cleaning,..you need a dedicated pump and other apparatus for that.
Jeff
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 30, 2016
I read everything I can find about it and watched all the YouTube videos on it.
Unless you know where I can find more info on it
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
May 30, 2016
Right, because downstreaming won't allow enough of to chemical out at a time to do roofs correct?
Jeff Wible said
May 30, 2016
Well,.it's not hard at all,..but you still need to understand it. Simple things like the proper direction the injector has to be placed,.how length of hose play a role,..sizing the injector to your machine,..or "under sizing" to say it better,.once you get 200' of hose. The injector needs rinsed after each job or it will stick the next day,..and sometimes will anyhow. They start drawing soap at around 800 PSI so you need to size your nozzles properly.
These things will all come up at some point. If you don't have a new injector buy one and have it so it has quick coupler to remove and replace easily.
Here is another site to learn about pressure washing and down streaming .
Right, because downstreaming won't allow enough of to chemical out at a time to do roofs correct?
Yes,.that is correct.
Jeff
Jeff Wible said
May 30, 2016
Oh,..and your zip code?
Jeff
Art O said
May 30, 2016
Anita, just so you understand a Down Stream injector goes on a power washer and you can't wash a roof with it. The S/H isn't strong enough. Most of us started out with a DC 5850 Delavan pump. You can buy the setup at Pressure Tek or make one yourself like most of us did. Keep things simple starting out and go from there. You are just confusing yourself with all these different set ups.
I have took people's advice and done all the reading on downstreaming that I can find.
I can tell that I should buy a remote box soap box. Can anyone tell me what name brand is the best to use. I'm sure I'm going to want a high frequency one so I can shut the soap off with out having line of sight. Any info will be appreciated ty.
I'll also need a bypass hose and ball valve but I understand pressure tek is the place to go for that. Right?
I just got a ball valve and I can't believe I lived without one. I don't downstream, but I love it for rinsing driveways and not having to cut my washer off to switch between the wand and the surface cleaner.
I got this one and it's really nice (http://www.pressuretek.com/hedubava.html). Go ahead and pop the little silver cap off and throw it away though. It's gonna fall off anyway.
Found this the other day, don't know how well it works but has a ball valve
Everybody doesn't use Russ Johnsons $275.00 remote,..I know some do,..but some just make their own for way less,..I know for a fact one can be made for around $50.00 and can be made to operate in a few minutes,.and be plumbed in and ready to use in less than a half hour.,.and end up with just as good a unit. And will work easily through any obstacles you encounter.
The $275.00 remote can be made with the same components for less than $100.00.
(Which frankly aren't much better than the cheaper components,..especially the key fob remote that comes with $275.00 unit) The Dema 481P is a good valve though,..but not worth the extra expense,..you can (6) of the cheaper ones for the cost of one Dema,.. and will work just as well,..and actually have Viton plunger,.The stock Dema is EPDM.
You can make your own remote very easily,.there are posts on this site that I made a few months ago that will give you the details.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 29th of May 2016 05:56:20 AM
Jeff
Jeff I couldn't find that post you made on how to build one. If you could tell me the subject name so I can search for it. Ty
http://nationalsoftwashalliance.activeboard.com/t61772041/remote-control-dsing/
Ty art, but for some reason it says I don't have permission to view that private content
You need to get 50 quality posts to get into that area
-- Edited by Art O on Sunday 29th of May 2016 10:41:27 AM
Hummmm ok guess I'll just learn that later
But ty Art
You have a remote with power (4) wires,..two come in from the battery and two go out to the solenoid. Viola,..you have a working remote. Add hose barbs to the solenoid,..the soap injector hose plugs into these barbs,..one in to your bucket and one to the soap injector.. the remote solenoid is now spliced between your soap bucket and injector. Very simple,...you now have a working DS remote.
*Actually,.you would add the hose barbs to the solenoid before the wiring,..but I was trying to make it simple.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 29th of May 2016 12:48:31 PM
But thank you anyway
This unit costs about $50.00- $60-00 to make which includes the battery to operate it and the box to house it.
*Anita,.I used to think they have to be complicated as well,..until I put one together,..really VERY simple.
Jeff
I actually have (3) remote units,..two on board and the other spare on standby,..which is the one I will sell you.
Do you have a Pay-Pal account?
Jeff
Yes I have paypal
Jeff
Jeff
Jeff
Unless you know where I can find more info on it
Well,.it's not hard at all,..but you still need to understand it. Simple things like the proper direction the injector has to be placed,.how length of hose play a role,..sizing the injector to your machine,..or "under sizing" to say it better,.once you get 200' of hose. The injector needs rinsed after each job or it will stick the next day,..and sometimes will anyhow. They start drawing soap at around 800 PSI so you need to size your nozzles properly.
These things will all come up at some point. If you don't have a new injector buy one and have it so it has quick coupler to remove and replace easily.
Here is another site to learn about pressure washing and down streaming .
http://www.propowerwash.com/board/upload/search.php?searchid=2277650
Jeff
Yes,.that is correct.
Jeff
Jeff
Anita, just so you understand a Down Stream injector goes on a power washer and you can't wash a roof with it. The S/H isn't strong enough. Most of us started out with a DC 5850 Delavan pump. You can buy the setup at Pressure Tek or make one yourself like most of us did. Keep things simple starting out and go from there. You are just confusing yourself with all these different set ups.