Can't see anything, must of had film developed by Gary W!😉
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
Jun 19, 2016
You can't see the wand marks across the bottom of the window? That's the first the my eyes focus on lol
-- Edited by A_J Pressure Washing on Sunday 19th of June 2016 08:31:25 AM
Art O said
Jun 19, 2016
They say Dragon Juice works
Jeff Wible said
Jun 19, 2016
I wouldn't charge extra,..I would charge accordingly.
Purple Power appllied direct,.brush and rinse.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 19th of June 2016 11:16:07 AM
Maverick Contracting said
Jun 19, 2016
Jeff spot on. Never discount for someone else's mess.it's more work to fix someone else's failures. It's what's known in the industry as "buying a job". Or taking less money than it costs you to do the job and make a profit. If a job costs you $1k and someone screws it up you need to chage $1400 to fix do not dofor $800!
For the record, the Gary W thing is an inside joke for the old members!
-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Sunday 19th of June 2016 11:21:17 AM
Chris Mozick said
Jun 19, 2016
I agree either charge regular price if not double for fixing that. I see the wand marks a brush and little elbow grease will fix that
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
Jun 19, 2016
Ty for all the input guys
Fred W said
Jun 19, 2016
Honestly, I don't care if someone has been there before me. I charge what I need to charge for the job in front of me.
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
Jun 19, 2016
Will the oxi-wash clean the oxidation off with out scrubbing it with a brush?
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
Jun 19, 2016
I would much rather spray than scrub lol
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Jun 19, 2016
You are going on have to scrub. No way around it.
Jeff Wible said
Jun 20, 2016
A_J Pressure Washing wrote:
Will the oxi-wash clean the oxidation off with out scrubbing it with a brush?
What is "Oxi-Wash". Don't use anything with the word "oxi" in in for typical siding washing. Oxi cleaners work well on raw wood,..and that's about it,..and also in the laundry as a chlorine free bleach.
I wouldn't as the label itself states it's designed for use on metal. I'll keep my mouth shut when it comes to SWS.
Hank
Jeff Wible said
Jun 20, 2016
Oxi anythings base ingredient is "Sodium Percarbonate",..and won't even clean basic mildew on vinyl siding. You said you don't want to scrub,..well that oxi stuff there is gonna NEED scrubbed,..If you were to use that on these wand marks,..you may as well just use water.
Anita,..Please use the detergents and mixes recommended here,..When we tell you what will work,..don't go off on your own trying to re-invent wheel. I doubt you read anywhere on here or that an oxi cleaner would work for oxidation removal. Just because it says "Oxi- Wash" doesn't mean it will clean oxidized siding,..it's named so due to what it is made of,.."Sodium Percarbonate" (AKA Oxygen Bleach) Again,..these cleaners are only effective on raw wood,..not worth using on anything else in our World. Maybe fairly clean awnings?
AND DO NOT MIX IT WITH CHLORINE BLEACH,..YOU WILL MAKE A VOLCANO OF USELESS SOAP.
Make life easier on yourself.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Monday 20th of June 2016 06:31:44 AM
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
Jun 20, 2016
Gotcha.
Kind of glad, that stuff is 33.00 a gallon lol
I got my purple power and my brush ready for this job. Lol ty everyone.
Jeff Wible said
Jun 20, 2016
Don't let the PP dry on the windows,..or on anything else for that matter. Do sections you can handle at one time before drying. Good damp or rainy day job.
Jeff
Jeff Wible said
Jun 20, 2016
Another thing,..you will likely have to do the whole side of anywhere there are wand marks,..you can't just remove oxidation on the areas with wand marks,..you will be removing the oxidation to remove wand marks,..so that means all of the oxidation will need removed from at least the side you're working on. So charge accordingly.
Jeff
All Kleen Softwash Systems said
Jun 20, 2016
Yea, I was thinking the same .
Can't just do half a wall lol. Ty jeff
Fred W said
Jun 20, 2016
SWS is a very mixed bag. Some guys here, that I highly respect, love AC (the owner) and SWS. Other guys, that I also highly respect, will warn you to just stay away and others will just not say anything at all.
Jeff Wible wrote:
Anita,..Please use the detergents and mixes recommended here,..When we tell you what will work,..don't go off on your own trying to re-invent wheel.
Some great advice. It's great to experiment and you need to so that you can find what works best for you. We all have our own style and we all have our own way of doing things but the basic nuts and bolts are pretty close.
John Aloisio said
Jun 20, 2016
We rarely run into this, maybe twice a season, but we have used OxiWash, Guttre Granade and Gutter Zap. All with success and yes all with some scrubbing. We do not downstream or even rinse with pressure washers, so yes it can be done with minimal pressure and minimal scrubbing if you use the right detergents. And when it comes to products, you need to find your niche and stick with it. You also need to carry multiple chems in your arsenal.
Michael Wedge said
Jun 20, 2016
I don't know what the hell a oxy wash is but i know what a oxy moron is. Im saying nothing at all, Just like momma taught me.
BlueRidge said
Jun 21, 2016
Diamond Roof Cleaning wrote:
You are going on have to scrub. No way around it.
We had one years ago that looked way worse than that one. It looked like a monkey took a crayon to the siding. I can't find the pictures and don't have time to look. Two things work. One Restore and Deep Clean from Winsol. The only way to blend it was to apply as usual, then brush from side to side and rinse. Our competitor wanted $800.00 to "blend it" with a PW. We got 450.00 and were finished in less than 2.5 hrs.
If you look closely you can see the wand strokes in the oxidation of the vinyl. They did half the house like that before the home owner ran them off.
Do you guys charge extra to fix others messes? Or just roll with it and get good word of mouth advertising?
I mean it's obvious the house needs oxi-wash anyway. Is there anything I can buy local that will take the oxidation off the house?
You can't see the wand marks across the bottom of the window?
That's the first the my eyes focus on lol
-- Edited by A_J Pressure Washing on Sunday 19th of June 2016 08:31:25 AM
I wouldn't charge extra,..I would charge accordingly.
Purple Power appllied direct,.brush and rinse.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 19th of June 2016 11:16:07 AM
Jeff spot on.
Never discount for someone else's mess.it's more work to fix someone else's failures.
It's what's known in the industry as "buying a job".
Or taking less money than it costs you to do the job and make a profit.
If a job costs you $1k and someone screws it up you need to chage $1400 to fix do not dofor $800!
For the record, the Gary W thing is an inside joke for the old members!
-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Sunday 19th of June 2016 11:21:17 AM
What is "Oxi-Wash". Don't use anything with the word "oxi" in in for typical siding washing. Oxi cleaners work well on raw wood,..and that's about it,..and also in the laundry as a chlorine free bleach.
Jeff
Oxi wash from SWS
Hank
Oxi anythings base ingredient is "Sodium Percarbonate",..and won't even clean basic mildew on vinyl siding. You said you don't want to scrub,..well that oxi stuff there is gonna NEED scrubbed,..If you were to use that on these wand marks,..you may as well just use water.
Anita,..Please use the detergents and mixes recommended here,..When we tell you what will work,..don't go off on your own trying to re-invent wheel. I doubt you read anywhere on here or that an oxi cleaner would work for oxidation removal. Just because it says "Oxi- Wash" doesn't mean it will clean oxidized siding,..it's named so due to what it is made of,.."Sodium Percarbonate" (AKA Oxygen Bleach) Again,..these cleaners are only effective on raw wood,..not worth using on anything else in our World. Maybe fairly clean awnings?
AND DO NOT MIX IT WITH CHLORINE BLEACH,..YOU WILL MAKE A VOLCANO OF USELESS SOAP.
Make life easier on yourself.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Monday 20th of June 2016 06:31:44 AM
Kind of glad, that stuff is 33.00 a gallon lol
I got my purple power and my brush ready for this job. Lol ty everyone.
Jeff
Jeff
Can't just do half a wall lol. Ty jeff
Some great advice. It's great to experiment and you need to so that you can find what works best for you. We all have our own style and we all have our own way of doing things but the basic nuts and bolts are pretty close.
We rarely run into this, maybe twice a season, but we have used OxiWash, Guttre Granade and Gutter Zap. All with success and yes all with some scrubbing. We do not downstream or even rinse with pressure washers, so yes it can be done with minimal pressure and minimal scrubbing if you use the right detergents. And when it comes to products, you need to find your niche and stick with it. You also need to carry multiple chems in your arsenal.
I don't know what the hell a oxy wash is but i know what a oxy moron is. Im saying nothing at all, Just like momma taught me.
We had one years ago that looked way worse than that one. It looked like a monkey took a crayon to the siding. I can't find the pictures and don't have time to look. Two things work. One Restore and Deep Clean from Winsol. The only way to blend it was to apply as usual, then brush from side to side and rinse. Our competitor wanted $800.00 to "blend it" with a PW. We got 450.00 and were finished in less than 2.5 hrs.