Just bought a 200 gl tanks and want to keep it as full as I can when filling it. When using a hudson valve you lose about 30 gls out of tank when installing it. Lid placement is not any better as the lid is cheap. Just looking for some ideas on at least putting in 180 before valve shuts it off.
I've been thinking about it since last night. Had one idea I shared. Perhaps looking at a koi pond float valve might be a option.
I know you want something permanent but I just had this vision. Remember AC's skids came with an aluminum filler neck to feed the tanks. If you could bend the aluminum to your needs and and place a quick connect to it and another QC on the hudson. The Hudson could sit right below the neck of the tank. Unscrew the tank cap and put in the hudson.
Hank
Liberty SoftWash said
Feb 5, 2017
it would be nice if hudson vavle had threads at bottom and you could spin down in bulk head fitting and it would sit about a 1inch and kept as much water in tank.
Art O said
Feb 5, 2017
How about this Eric. Attach it to the lid. It should save some space
Should have bought a bigger tank,Ha,Ha,..then that extra 30 gallons would be there by default. Seriously though,.I know what you're talking about,..was one of the first things I noticed when I installed mine.
I think the options are limited,..especially simple ones. I thought about this before,..adding a column of PVC pipe to the top of the tank with a flange at the bottom for a rubber gasket and bolt holes for installing it. I think a 6" diameter PVC could work,..and a PVC end cap could be fabricated to install the float valve.
I'd definitely assemble it before cutting a hole in the top of the tank,Ha,Ha,...
*I can picture this in my mind and it would likely work,..not sure if my explanation is clear though.
**I'm pretty sure they sell these flange ends with holes already.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 5th of February 2017 08:41:39 AM
Glue this flange to the bottom of the 6" PVC pipe,..install the inlet of the float valve through the end cap,..put this assembly through the top of the pipe. You could glue the end cap on,..but I would probably use 3-4 screws to secure it in place. You could use something like clear silicone to help give it some seal,..but I don't think it's THAT important anyhow at the top of the column anyhow,..the water never really reaches that. The screws would allow for future maintenance.
*For a rubber seal,.I like the stall mat that TSC sells,.it's on a big roll and you can by it by the linear ft. Works very well,..and would make a great gasket for the flange when bolted to the tank.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 5th of February 2017 08:55:01 AM
Art O said
Feb 5, 2017
Eric look in Google Images. There's a boat load of Float vales in there. Maybe you will see something that will work.
Dave said
Feb 5, 2017
the 6" PVC extension is the way to go. Have the Float valve an 1" or 2" below the top of the tank. I did this all the time with industrial tanks for water coolers. But made the float valve extension tube out of stainless.
The guy who posted hasn't posted for 4 years and the website is some really strange Japanese stuff.
I like that you can make it get close to the top.
BlueRidge said
Feb 5, 2017
Liberty SoftWash wrote:
I am looking at a low-water cut off switch and a solenoid valve to turn the water on and off.
Can you find one 12V?
Liberty SoftWash said
Feb 5, 2017
I am looking for one.
Fred W said
Feb 6, 2017
Eric......I seriously thought you were smarter than you are! I really think your wife is more valuable off the truck. I mean making her sit up there and keep the tank full is just plain stupid.
Eric Schnaible said
Mar 23, 2018
What did you end up going with Eric? And how did it work?
Just bought a 200 gl tanks and want to keep it as full as I can when filling it. When using a hudson valve you lose about 30 gls out of tank when installing it. Lid placement is not any better as the lid is cheap. Just looking for some ideas on at least putting in 180 before valve shuts it off.
I know you want something permanent but I just had this vision. Remember AC's skids came with an aluminum filler neck to feed the tanks. If you could bend the aluminum to your needs and and place a quick connect to it and another QC on the hudson. The Hudson could sit right below the neck of the tank. Unscrew the tank cap and put in the hudson.
Hank
tarterusa.com/tarter-products/water-tank-float-valve/
Should have bought a bigger tank,Ha,Ha,..then that extra 30 gallons would be there by default. Seriously though,.I know what you're talking about,..was one of the first things I noticed when I installed mine.
I think the options are limited,..especially simple ones. I thought about this before,..adding a column of PVC pipe to the top of the tank with a flange at the bottom for a rubber gasket and bolt holes for installing it. I think a 6" diameter PVC could work,..and a PVC end cap could be fabricated to install the float valve.
I'd definitely assemble it before cutting a hole in the top of the tank,Ha,Ha,...
*I can picture this in my mind and it would likely work,..not sure if my explanation is clear though.
**I'm pretty sure they sell these flange ends with holes already.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 5th of February 2017 08:41:39 AM
Here is the type flange I'm talking about.
https://www.google.com/search?q=6%22+pvc+flange&safe=off&rlz=1C1GKLA_enUS615US615&espv=2&biw=1455&bih=700&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwip5vWYivnRAhXE0iYKHRE8BXcQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=K8bFQ24hruYvQM:
Glue this flange to the bottom of the 6" PVC pipe,..install the inlet of the float valve through the end cap,..put this assembly through the top of the pipe. You could glue the end cap on,..but I would probably use 3-4 screws to secure it in place. You could use something like clear silicone to help give it some seal,..but I don't think it's THAT important anyhow at the top of the column anyhow,..the water never really reaches that. The screws would allow for future maintenance.
*For a rubber seal,.I like the stall mat that TSC sells,.it's on a big roll and you can by it by the linear ft. Works very well,..and would make a great gasket for the flange when bolted to the tank.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Sunday 5th of February 2017 08:55:01 AM
Eric look in Google Images. There's a boat load of Float vales in there. Maybe you will see something that will work.
www.pvcfittingsonline.com/6-dwv-pvc-cap-socket-p116-060.html
This thing looks like it would work https://youtu.be/ja-8UDTf2wI
The guy who posted hasn't posted for 4 years and the website is some really strange Japanese stuff.
I like that you can make it get close to the top.
Can you find one 12V?
Eric......I seriously thought you were smarter than you are! I really think your wife is more valuable off the truck. I mean making her sit up there and keep the tank full is just plain stupid.