EB4040HG Belt Driven 4 GPM @ 4000 PSI General Pump Power Washer
Dave O said
Jul 20, 2018
Guys,
I'm thinking of purchasing this pressure washer for about $1500. This image shows it with wheels but will likely purchase the skid version. Our typical pw jobs are walkways, patios and driveways. We don't do large commercial work - yet. This is the same size pw I use today along with the yellow "Classic" surface cleaner. Any thoughts or advise? Also what are the pros and cons of direct versus belt drive?
The EB4040HG comes with a gun and wand assembly included. A Downstream Chemical Injector, a 50' x 3/8" hose, 4-color-coded QC spray nozzles, and 1 color-coded QC chemical nozzle are also included with this product.
Revolutionary aircraft grade aluminum frame with dual handles (no welds to fail)
Lifetime frame warranty
Easy access single bolt interlocking belt cover
Single bolt engine adjustable belt tension
50 mesh inlet filter
Adjustable pressure unloader
Low oil shutdown
Pneumatic tires
Dual padded S/H absorbing feet
3/4″ cold-rolled steel threaded axle
Thermo-sensor (prevents overheating in bypass mode)
Commercial/Industrial grade engines
Engine: Honda
Start Type: Recoil
Pump: HP
PSI: 4000 PSI
GPM: 4.0 GPM
Hose Length: 50'
Hose Width: 3/8"
Hose Type: 1 Wire
Patrick G said
Jul 20, 2018
I purchased a 3500 psi, 8 gpm belt drive from Erik and Lisa this spring. I can't tell you what a difference from the 4 gpm i have used for years. The quickness from rinsing a house or pavers on one pass. Once or twice this season I used the 4 gpm to rinse down a house wash and it was BRUTAL!
-- Edited by Patrick G on Friday 20th of July 2018 11:02:34 PM
Art O said
Jul 21, 2018
I have that same PW, but I added a 5.5 GPM @ 2700 PSI. Works fine for me and easy to work on. I had to change the tips out on my surface cleaner to get more pressure. I also use Guy's shooter tip with no problems.
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Jul 21, 2018
I would spend a little more and at least.
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Jul 21, 2018
And get a 5.5 or 8gpm
Dave O said
Jul 21, 2018
The consensus so far is to purchase something with at least 5.5 GPM. What should be the minimum PSI that will effectively work with a surface cleaner and to scour surfaces such as retaining walls where a lot of algae, moss and grime can build up?
Art O said
Jul 21, 2018
Check over here Dave they have some good deals. I like the 19 HP 3500 psi @ 6.5 GPM
Those are very low prices Art. It appears they sell Vanguard and Kohler engines but not Honda. From what I have been told, Honda is preferred. Do you own a Vanguard or Kohler engine and what is your knowledge of those makes?
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Jul 22, 2018
My vanguard is 9 yrs old and still running
Art O said
Jul 22, 2018
I like the Kohler engine better then the Vangaurd. What I'm not sure about is the Allison pumps and unloaders. You can build your own system from what I'm reading on he site. Do some research and give them a call and let us know what you come up with.
BlueRidge said
Jul 22, 2018
Diamond Roof Cleaning wrote:
My vanguard is 9 yrs old and still running
Mike, I'm looking for a back up cold water machine. Our two year old Hydro Tech 5.5/3500 psi hot water PW has been a good bit of trouble. The factory installed belt to the generator has broken 4 times due to poor alignment which I have tried to get right and even had it in the local shop. Now the Honda engine is running strange and that is not easy to trouble shoot so it needs to go into the shop.
Having a back up cold water machine is now a necessity with all the work we have. I was looking at the Enviro Spec site and see that a lot are gear drive. Will they work as well as belt when hooked to a buffer tank? I know Kohler and Vangurd are good engines so it doesn't matter which one it is. I'm thinking about this one.
That's encouraging to hear Kohler and Vangaurd engines are sound. I will call EnviroSpec tomorrow. I asked someone from another store the pros and cons of direct versus belt drive. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Jul 22, 2018
Brett yes I have a gear driven machine and it has a smaller footprint and works just as well with the buffer tank.
Art O said
Jul 22, 2018
Gear drive run at a higher RPM then a belt drive
BlueRidge said
Jul 22, 2018
Art O wrote:
Gear drive run at a higher RPM then a belt drive
What do you mean Art? Is that good or bad? A little more info would be helpful.
BlueRidge said
Jul 22, 2018
Diamond Roof Cleaning wrote:
Brett yes I have a gear driven machine and it has a smaller footprint and works just as well with the buffer tank.
Thank you Mike!
Art O said
Jul 22, 2018
BlueRidge wrote:
Art O wrote:
Gear drive run at a higher RPM then a belt drive
What do you mean Art? Is that good or bad? A little more info would be helpful.
Higher RPM means more wear on the motor.
Art O said
Jul 22, 2018
If you guys call there, try to get past the operator and ask for Dan
BlueRidge said
Jul 24, 2018
I called Dan at EnvirSpec and ordered 6.5 gpm 4000 psi gear drive.
Ok guys I consulted with Dan from EnviroSpech. He seems very knowledgeable. I finally found someone that can explain the difference between belt drive vs direct drive vs gear drive. Belt drive - Can draw from buffer tank versus force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 1450 or 1750. You do loose some horsepower so it's not the most efficient. Direct drive - You cannot draw from a buffer tank and must force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 3600. Gear drive - Can draw from buffer tank versus force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 1750.
This is what he said concerning motors: Honda and Vanguard are fairly equal and you can expect about 2,000 hours out of them. The Kohler is superior to both Honda and Vanguard as it is considered an industrial rated motor. You can expect about 4,000 hours of use.
I am going to purchase the TNTPKG11 6.5 GPM, 4000 psi pressure washer shown below. It includes a Kohler 19Hp motor with electric start, an Allison pump TSB5638 gear installed, pressure relief valve and a Soft-Touch unloader all mounted on an aluminum plate for $1554. The OEM warranties are 3 years for the engine, 3 months for the gear drive and 5 years for the pump.
Please let me know if you can think of any concerns...thanks.
Art O said
Jul 25, 2018
Dave O wrote:
Ok guys I consulted with Dan from EnviroSpech. He seems very knowledgeable. I finally found someone that can explain the difference between belt drive vs direct drive vs gear drive. Belt drive - Can draw from buffer tank versus force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 1450 or 1750. You do loose some horsepower so it's not the most efficient. Direct drive - You cannot draw from a buffer tank and must force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 3600. Gear drive - Can draw from buffer tank versus force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 1750.
This is what he said concerning motors: Honda and Vanguard are fairly equal and you can expect about 2,000 hours out of them. The Kohler is superior to both Honda and Vanguard as it is considered an industrial rated motor. You can expect about 4,000 hours of use.
I am going to purchase the TNTPKG11 6.5 GPM, 4000 psi pressure washer shown below. It includes a Kohler 19Hp motor with electric start, an Allison pump TSB5638 gear installed, pressure relief valve and a Soft-Touch unloader all mounted on an aluminum plate for $1554. The OEM warranties are 3 years for the engine, 3 months for the gear drive and 5 years for the pump.
Please let me know if you can think of any concerns...thanks.
That's the Exact machine that I like. Good luck with it Dave.
Patrick G said
Jul 25, 2018
You will need a buffer tank
BlueRidge said
Jul 26, 2018
Art O wrote:
Dave O wrote:
Ok guys I consulted with Dan from EnviroSpech. He seems very knowledgeable. I finally found someone that can explain the difference between belt drive vs direct drive vs gear drive. Belt drive - Can draw from buffer tank versus force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 1450 or 1750. You do loose some horsepower so it's not the most efficient. Direct drive - You cannot draw from a buffer tank and must force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 3600. Gear drive - Can draw from buffer tank versus force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 1750.
This is what he said concerning motors: Honda and Vanguard are fairly equal and you can expect about 2,000 hours out of them. The Kohler is superior to both Honda and Vanguard as it is considered an industrial rated motor. You can expect about 4,000 hours of use.
I am going to purchase the TNTPKG11 6.5 GPM, 4000 psi pressure washer shown below. It includes a Kohler 19Hp motor with electric start, an Allison pump TSB5638 gear installed, pressure relief valve and a Soft-Touch unloader all mounted on an aluminum plate for $1554. The OEM warranties are 3 years for the engine, 3 months for the gear drive and 5 years for the pump.
Please let me know if you can think of any concerns...thanks.
That's the Exact machine that I like. Good luck with it Dave.
Mine should arrive on Monday. Dan was very helpful and understood my needs with the exhaust and a box truck. He has a 90 for the exhaust I got so I won't have to figure it out later.
Guys,
I'm thinking of purchasing this pressure washer for about $1500. This image shows it with wheels but will likely purchase the skid version. Our typical pw jobs are walkways, patios and driveways. We don't do large commercial work - yet. This is the same size pw I use today along with the yellow "Classic" surface cleaner. Any thoughts or advise? Also what are the pros and cons of direct versus belt drive?
The EB4040HG comes with a gun and wand assembly included. A Downstream Chemical Injector, a 50' x 3/8" hose, 4-color-coded QC spray nozzles, and 1 color-coded QC chemical nozzle are also included with this product.
Revolutionary aircraft grade aluminum frame with dual handles (no welds to fail)
Lifetime frame warranty
Easy access single bolt interlocking belt cover
Single bolt engine adjustable belt tension
50 mesh inlet filter
Adjustable pressure unloader
Low oil shutdown
Pneumatic tires
Dual padded S/H absorbing feet
3/4″ cold-rolled steel threaded axle
Thermo-sensor (prevents overheating in bypass mode)
Commercial/Industrial grade engines
Engine: Honda
Start Type: Recoil
Pump: HP
PSI: 4000 PSI
GPM: 4.0 GPM
Hose Length: 50'
Hose Width: 3/8"
Hose Type: 1 Wire
I purchased a 3500 psi, 8 gpm belt drive from Erik and Lisa this spring. I can't tell you what a difference from the 4 gpm i have used for years. The quickness from rinsing a house or pavers on one pass. Once or twice this season I used the 4 gpm to rinse down a house wash and it was BRUTAL!
-- Edited by Patrick G on Friday 20th of July 2018 11:02:34 PM
I have that same PW, but I added a 5.5 GPM @ 2700 PSI. Works fine for me and easy to work on. I had to change the tips out on my surface cleaner to get more pressure. I also use Guy's shooter tip with no problems.
Check over here Dave they have some good deals. I like the 19 HP 3500 psi @ 6.5 GPM
https://envirospec.com/envirospec-catalog/tnt-pressure-washer/
Those are very low prices Art. It appears they sell Vanguard and Kohler engines but not Honda. From what I have been told, Honda is preferred. Do you own a Vanguard or Kohler engine and what is your knowledge of those makes?
I like the Kohler engine better then the Vangaurd. What I'm not sure about is the Allison pumps and unloaders. You can build your own system from what I'm reading on he site. Do some research and give them a call and let us know what you come up with.
Mike, I'm looking for a back up cold water machine. Our two year old Hydro Tech 5.5/3500 psi hot water PW has been a good bit of trouble. The factory installed belt to the generator has broken 4 times due to poor alignment which I have tried to get right and even had it in the local shop. Now the Honda engine is running strange and that is not easy to trouble shoot so it needs to go into the shop.
Having a back up cold water machine is now a necessity with all the work we have. I was looking at the Enviro Spec site and see that a lot are gear drive. Will they work as well as belt when hooked to a buffer tank? I know Kohler and Vangurd are good engines so it doesn't matter which one it is. I'm thinking about this one.
http://envirospec.com/buildcart.cfm?pn=TNTPKG11
Thoughts?
What do you mean Art? Is that good or bad? A little more info would be helpful.
Thank you Mike!
Higher RPM means more wear on the motor.
If you guys call there, try to get past the operator and ask for Dan
I called Dan at EnvirSpec and ordered 6.5 gpm 4000 psi gear drive.
More on this after it arrives.
Ok guys I consulted with Dan from EnviroSpech. He seems very knowledgeable. I finally found someone that can explain the difference between belt drive vs direct drive vs gear drive.
Belt drive - Can draw from buffer tank versus force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 1450 or 1750. You do loose some horsepower so it's not the most efficient.
Direct drive - You cannot draw from a buffer tank and must force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 3600.
Gear drive - Can draw from buffer tank versus force feed from a hose. The motor rpm is typically 1750.
This is what he said concerning motors: Honda and Vanguard are fairly equal and you can expect about 2,000 hours out of them. The Kohler is superior to both Honda and Vanguard as it is considered an industrial rated motor. You can expect about 4,000 hours of use.
I am going to purchase the TNTPKG11 6.5 GPM, 4000 psi pressure washer shown below. It includes a Kohler 19Hp motor with electric start, an Allison pump TSB5638 gear installed, pressure relief valve and a Soft-Touch unloader all mounted on an aluminum plate for $1554. The OEM warranties are 3 years for the engine, 3 months for the gear drive and 5 years for the pump.
Please let me know if you can think of any concerns...thanks.
That's the Exact machine that I like. Good luck with it Dave.
Mine should arrive on Monday. Dan was very helpful and understood my needs with the exhaust and a box truck. He has a 90 for the exhaust I got so I won't have to figure it out later.
Yep I already have one...thanks.