Here is a picture of my remote DS with proportioner. That is a 2 GPM 12V feeding 10 GPM PW,..pulls SH/ and soap separately,..no real setting just wide open on SH with the soap cracked,...Even with 10 GPM makes a solution that will smoke typical black and green algae on siding. The valve you see next to the hose real is for starting engine without the unloader wanting to load up,...start with valve open,..engine turns easily and then simply shut it,....and try to remember to shut it,..sucks walking back from '150 away to do it.
That's interesting Jeff. I get the pump and what you're doing but seeing the whole thing would be a bit more helpful. I remember you talking about this last year.
Jeff Wible said
Dec 3, 2018
Hey Brett,..that really is the whole thing as far as the DS/proportioning unit goes. What are you looking for but don't see?
If I knew how to add notations or whatever to depict each component I would,..and I'm sure would be a great help to anyone interested.
Yes, I did mention it before,..this was my first season using it,...and the proportioner allows me to use the same soap tank and SH tank for DS'ing. Works very well.
*I know,..I CAN be confusing, Ha, Ha,..
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Monday 3rd of December 2018 07:38:21 AM
Jeff Wible said
Dec 3, 2018
In reverse order,...
From the injector back to the pump, (Blue hose),...
Pump goes back to solenoid
Solenoid inlet has proportioning valve directly attached
Proportioning valve has only two valves,..one goes to SH tank,..other goes to soap tank,..( Soap is aluminum tank on side of trailer)
SH valve is a three way so I can rinse the unit when done,..water line runs to supply at front of trailer.
Remote unit is the aluminum box on the trailer frame just behind the proportioner.
Check valves are used inline,..and also soap has a small filter.
Soap tank has two 1/4" valves I can basically set them there and then just turn the proportioner wide open,..and is always set the same.
Not sure if this helps or makes it worse, Ha, Ha,..
Jeff
Jeff Wible said
Dec 3, 2018
Here's another picture of the solenoid and proportioner,..if that helps?
Another point about this setup: I run these pumps direct,..I don't use the pressure switch,.no need to considering it turns on and off with the solenoid via remote. Bypassing the switch allows for max GPM and also removes another element for a potential issue.
I once hooked up my AODD pump to the injector just to see how much concentration I could get,..but it wasn't much different than the 2 GPM,...must be due to the fact that the injector can only allow so much chemica through. 2 GPM was a major upgrade though from the 1 GPM I was using.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Tuesday 4th of December 2018 05:56:26 AM
BlueRidge said
Dec 4, 2018
If I am understanding this right, you are not using a tank to draw from but force feeding to the injector. If so that is a great idea!
Watch out... the PWS will put it in a SS box and sell it for $899.00.
Jeff Wible said
Dec 4, 2018
Brett,..I am doing both,..the SH/Soap comes from separate tanks,..goes through proportioner through solenoid, ..to pump which then force feeds the injector.
Imagine it being the same as the regular proportioner without the water valve,..(2) separate tanks, SH/Soap..when it comes out of the pump it goes into the injector..then it forces approximately 2 GPM into the HP line,..and makes a very strong DS solution,..from approximately 50 PSI- 600 PSI soap.
The proportioner is simply saving from having a premixed DS tank,..I use same tanks for roof cleaning with other regular size proportioner that is not in the picture.
Then yes,..it's just shoving the solution into the injector,..same as DS'ing except with added benefit of being able to run high GPM and have plenty of percentage,..and is all on the same remote channel.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Tuesday 4th of December 2018 07:49:21 AM
Jeff Wible said
Dec 5, 2018
One other thing here is: If this were done with a lower GPM machine like 4 GPM,..it would likely be strong enough for roof cleaning? I don't have any smaller units to experiment with. But it stands to reason,..the percentage would be much greater due to less water in the stream. And if it were done with a smaller machine, then proportioner could be used effectively to lower the percentage for house washing.
To refresh anyones memory as the reasoning behind this: Started with wanting to rinse with low PSI while DS'ing,...Being able to rinse at low PSI was started with the solenoid in the soap pick up line and was remotely controlled,..when it is off, allows for the use of soap nozzles for rinsing because it stops the draw. The pump is inline to make an 8-10 GPM PW be able to downstream,..because with just a soap injector,..higher GPM is basically useless,..(Although when I ran 8 GPM,..DS'ing was kinda' possible) I added and used the proportioner this past season to simply eliminate the premixed soap bucket.
This is a fairly stout system,..replaced pump once and solenoid once,..proportioner valves are just 1/4" PVC and are the same ones I started with,..the 'T" coming off the solenoid did crack in about September,..but these are all the cost of doing business,..and making life a whole lot easier.
Jeff
Liberty SoftWash said
Dec 8, 2018
BlueRidge wrote:
If I am understanding this right, you are not using a tank to draw from but force feeding to the injector. If so that is a great idea!
Watch out... the PWS will put it in a SS box and sell it for $899.00.
Here is a picture of my remote DS with proportioner. That is a 2 GPM 12V feeding 10 GPM PW,..pulls SH/ and soap separately,..no real setting just wide open on SH with the soap cracked,...Even with 10 GPM makes a solution that will smoke typical black and green algae on siding. The valve you see next to the hose real is for starting engine without the unloader wanting to load up,...start with valve open,..engine turns easily and then simply shut it,....and try to remember to shut it,..sucks walking back from '150 away to do it.
That's interesting Jeff. I get the pump and what you're doing but seeing the whole thing would be a bit more helpful. I remember you talking about this last year.
Hey Brett,..that really is the whole thing as far as the DS/proportioning unit goes. What are you looking for but don't see?
If I knew how to add notations or whatever to depict each component I would,..and I'm sure would be a great help to anyone interested.
Yes, I did mention it before,..this was my first season using it,...and the proportioner allows me to use the same soap tank and SH tank for DS'ing. Works very well.
*I know,..I CAN be confusing, Ha, Ha,..
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Monday 3rd of December 2018 07:38:21 AM
From the injector back to the pump, (Blue hose),...
Pump goes back to solenoid
Solenoid inlet has proportioning valve directly attached
Proportioning valve has only two valves,..one goes to SH tank,..other goes to soap tank,..( Soap is aluminum tank on side of trailer)
SH valve is a three way so I can rinse the unit when done,..water line runs to supply at front of trailer.
Remote unit is the aluminum box on the trailer frame just behind the proportioner.
Check valves are used inline,..and also soap has a small filter.
Soap tank has two 1/4" valves I can basically set them there and then just turn the proportioner wide open,..and is always set the same.
Not sure if this helps or makes it worse, Ha, Ha,..
Jeff
Here's another picture of the solenoid and proportioner,..if that helps?
Another point about this setup: I run these pumps direct,..I don't use the pressure switch,.no need to considering it turns on and off with the solenoid via remote. Bypassing the switch allows for max GPM and also removes another element for a potential issue.
I once hooked up my AODD pump to the injector just to see how much concentration I could get,..but it wasn't much different than the 2 GPM,...must be due to the fact that the injector can only allow so much chemica through. 2 GPM was a major upgrade though from the 1 GPM I was using.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Tuesday 4th of December 2018 05:56:26 AM
If I am understanding this right, you are not using a tank to draw from but force feeding to the injector. If so that is a great idea!
Watch out... the PWS will put it in a SS box and sell it for $899.00.
Brett,..I am doing both,..the SH/Soap comes from separate tanks,..goes through proportioner through solenoid, ..to pump which then force feeds the injector.
Imagine it being the same as the regular proportioner without the water valve,..(2) separate tanks, SH/Soap..when it comes out of the pump it goes into the injector..then it forces approximately 2 GPM into the HP line,..and makes a very strong DS solution,..from approximately 50 PSI- 600 PSI soap.
The proportioner is simply saving from having a premixed DS tank,..I use same tanks for roof cleaning with other regular size proportioner that is not in the picture.
Then yes,..it's just shoving the solution into the injector,..same as DS'ing except with added benefit of being able to run high GPM and have plenty of percentage,..and is all on the same remote channel.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Tuesday 4th of December 2018 07:49:21 AM
To refresh anyones memory as the reasoning behind this: Started with wanting to rinse with low PSI while DS'ing,...Being able to rinse at low PSI was started with the solenoid in the soap pick up line and was remotely controlled,..when it is off, allows for the use of soap nozzles for rinsing because it stops the draw. The pump is inline to make an 8-10 GPM PW be able to downstream,..because with just a soap injector,..higher GPM is basically useless,..(Although when I ran 8 GPM,..DS'ing was kinda' possible) I added and used the proportioner this past season to simply eliminate the premixed soap bucket.
This is a fairly stout system,..replaced pump once and solenoid once,..proportioner valves are just 1/4" PVC and are the same ones I started with,..the 'T" coming off the solenoid did crack in about September,..but these are all the cost of doing business,..and making life a whole lot easier.
Jeff
Funny shit!