Question For Anyone Using or Have Used 12V Roof Pump
Jeff Wible said
Dec 5, 2018
I am likely going to setup a 5850 and FatBoy for roof cleaning this season. I Like the All-Flo AODD,...but there is one thing I really hate,..and that is the colder months the pump pulsates very bad,..like it's working hard,..and it's harder to control accuracy. Shoots 10 ft. then 30 ft. between pulses.
Anyhow, my question is do you guys run the PW and 12V off same battery and count on the PW to keep the battery charged up? Makes sense to me and is how I was planning on doing it,..but I seen where Ed Thompson said when the Fatboy was pulling more AMPS than the 20 AMP Honda could put out it ruined his charging system. And I'm talking about running them both at the same time, because I run the PW to keep surroundings wet,..so both would be running at the same time,...is this an issue with the Fatboy?
I've read enough to see that guys do run the same battery and count on the machine to charge the battery,..but what I didn't see was anyone who stated they were running both at the same time.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Wednesday 5th of December 2018 05:57:37 AM
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Dec 5, 2018
Jeff i used to run the fatboy off a separate battery but hooked that battery up in parallel to the battery on the pw. I never had a problem with the charging unit.
I must tell you that we switched over to the booster pumps ( still have a 12 volt for back up) but they are really reliable and spray a very consistent pattern. You just need to carry a generator around with you which is no big deal. The 12 volt pumps just got to be be too much of a pain especially when they would just die in the middle of the job. This combined with the proportioner we are able to go from roof cleaning right into house washing. We only use the pw for rinsing( 2 men on the job). Sometimes we will use the pw with downstream but not very often.
BlueRidge said
Dec 5, 2018
Diamond Roof Cleaning wrote:
Jeff i used to run the fatboy off a separate battery but hooked that battery up in parallel to the battery on the pw. I never had a problem with the charging unit.
I must tell you that we switched over to the booster pumps ( still have a 12 volt for back up) but they are really reliable and spray a very consistent pattern. You just need to carry a generator around with you which is no big deal. The 12 volt pumps just got to be be too much of a pain especially when they would just die in the middle of the job. This combined with the proportioner we are able to go from roof cleaning right into house washing. We only use the pw for rinsing( 2 men on the job). Sometimes we will use the pw with downstream but not very often.
That is the same thing we are doing. We use the FB for smaller roofs and for filling the DS tank that we don't use much anymore. Basically, the FB is a back up.
With the batteries in parallel, that's enough to go all day with the FB alone. Good idea Mike!
I have one truck still set up like it was three years ago with a dedicated battery for the generator and 12V pump. Always plugged in at night to a truck mounted trickle charger. I do think it get's topped off from the generator. The new build is wired from the PW battery with no issue and like Mike, it is running the entire time for rinsing and seldom powers the pump when the PW is off.
Jeff Wible said
Dec 5, 2018
Thanks Mike,..I was considering the parallel idea as well. Thank you for the input,...makes me feel better about doing it. Not sure why pulling more amps than a charging system cn put out would cause damage,...gotta wonder if there wasn't something else going on there with the person who had the issue and blamed it on pulling too many amps? Could be though,..and is why I sked.
I don't doubt the booster pump works well,..I just prefer DS'ing and one hose with a wider range of PSI,..especially during windy conditions. I'm sure they are great for roof spraying,..I don't doubt it,..but the AC current and the life expectancy doesn't warrant the cost per piece at this point. Would be different if there weren't options. And,.. I hardly have room for me,..let alone a generator, Ha,Ha,.. These 12V will only be used sparingly,..like during the colder months on roofs.
Thanks Again,
Jeff
Jeff Wible said
Dec 5, 2018
Thanks Brett,..that is helpful information. And is what I'm going to do.
Jeff
Art O said
Dec 5, 2018
I also run a marine battery for my pumps and plug it in at night. I find the 5850 doesn't like the cold' I have to prime it at times to get it going
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Dec 5, 2018
The Booster Seems to work well in the cold and heat. The goulds booster pumps can be rebuilt and most do that after each yr. I found one from northern tool. They are about 400 a piece. I have had one last almost 2 seasons. I haven't tried rebuilding them but you may be able to. I used to go thru 3-6 12volt pumps a yr until I switched over.
I have a 1hp booster that sprays much stronger than the 3/4 hp but uses a bigger generator. I also have these attached to a remote control to turn on and off so that my plumbing is still kept simple. We are able to still use these for house washing even in windy conditions.
BlueRidge said
Dec 5, 2018
Diamond Roof Cleaning wrote:
The Booster Seems to work well in the cold and heat. The goulds booster pumps can be rebuilt and most do that after each yr. I found one from northern tool. They are about 400 a piece. I have had one last almost 2 seasons. I haven't tried rebuilding them but you may be able to. I used to go thru 3-6 12volt pumps a yr until I switched over.
I have a 1hp booster that sprays much stronger than the 3/4 hp but uses a bigger generator. I also have these attached to a remote control to turn on and off so that my plumbing is still kept simple. We are able to still use these for house washing even in windy conditions.
What pump are you using from Northern Tool? I tried one and when I went to rebuild the impellers and diffuses I found everything to be plastic. Also, I haven't found one that is SS, just cast iron. I'd love to save $400.00 a pump!
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Dec 5, 2018
Brett I'm using the one that is cast iron. We do rinse it out after every use. I think I'm still going to buy another goulds pump for my main skid. I know how to rebuild them now so it will be worth the cost in the end.
Bryan P said
Dec 7, 2018
I've had my 12v battery hooked to both my 12v pump and my charging system on my GX630 for three years with no problems at all. We apply chems with the 12v and rinse with the PW so the battery stays charged. I've used both Fatboy 3 and Flo-Jet Versajet pumps.
BlueRidge said
Dec 8, 2018
Now that things have changed so much in the past eight years Bryan... I think that is the easiest way to go and not have to plug in to a charger each night.
Jeff Wible said
Dec 8, 2018
Thanks for the input Bryan, glad to see you're still around. I will definitely be good then,..all I will be using the 12V pumps for is applying roof mix. Every now and then I will get into huge flat work that requires a higher percentage to clean, and will use it for that also. So my PW will keep the battery charged with no issue.
It was Ed Thompson who stated he had an issue,.and was told by one of the vendors that it was due to the Fatboy pulling too many amps. Didn't sound right to me,..and is why I asked the board. I trust Ed Thompson as well,..just wonder about how his issue was diagnosed is all.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Saturday 8th of December 2018 06:19:30 AM
SprayWash said
Dec 12, 2018
Jeff, I've read somewhere about people pulling power off their wiring harness from the truck to top off the battery while driving? Does this make sense to you? I'm quite unsophisticated (re: stupid) when it comes to electrics.
Diamond Roof Cleaning said
Dec 12, 2018
Ray yes you can do that you just need a relay or on /off switch for when you turn the vehicle off or it will drain the battery.
BlueRidge said
Dec 12, 2018
SprayWash wrote:
Jeff, I've read somewhere about people pulling power off their wiring harness from the truck to top off the battery while driving? Does this make sense to you? I'm quite unsophisticated (re: stupid) when it comes to electrics.
Here's a pretty good explanation of relay and diode isolators.
Jeff Wible said
Dec 13, 2018
SprayWash wrote:
Jeff, I've read somewhere about people pulling power off their wiring harness from the truck to top off the battery while driving? Does this make sense to you? I'm quite unsophisticated (re: stupid) when it comes to electrics.
Hey Ray...that's the route I was going to go if there was a possibility of running it off the PW would mess up the charging system. I read Ed Thompson had an issue,.and Bob at PressureTek told him it was due to the pump pulling too many amps? As I am also no genius when it comes to this I thought I'd ask the board. I think Ed Thompson may have had an underlying issue? Aside from the actual experiences of the guys here which I trust,...I also didn't see why it would burn up the charging system in the PW engine.
*Regarding pulling charge from my van,..I actually do that already,..I have three battery operated sprayers with small 3AH batteries,..and I keep them plugged in and never have to manually charge them. Works very well.
Jeff
Michael Hickey said
Dec 14, 2018
We do the same as Bryan, but we have a small switch to turn off the current from the power washer battery to the leisure battery to stop it draining it if the power washer is not being used.
Jeff Wible said
Dec 15, 2018
Michael Hickey wrote:
We do the same as Bryan, but we have a small switch to turn off the current from the power washer battery to the leisure battery to stop it draining it if the power washer is not being used.
Hey Michael,..sounds like an isolator and is a good idea when running without the washer being on,.I don't really foresee me running it that way,..Never say never though!
I also read on here where you mentioned a few times about using a PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) to control the speed of you 12v motor. My question to you is: If I have say a 5 GPM 12v pump running at 60@ PSI,..and you turn the motor down with the,...to say 2 GPM how does that affect PSI if you use the nozzle for a 2 GPM pump? Is it basically like having a small pump? If so,..that would make a pump like a 5850 or Fatboy more versatile. I actually have the same PWM you highlighted in one of your posts,..and when I hooked it up to just the motor it did effectively turn down the speed,...just like a heater fan or a trolling motor....But,..I am tore down at the moment and didn't get a chance to test it through 200' of hose yet.
Jeff
Michael Hickey said
Dec 19, 2018
Hi Jeff, It will affect the pressure. There is another type of controller similar to the ones used in window cleaning but with a higher amp rating. I bought one last year and fitted it to a pump in a van that I haven't used much for one reason or another. It does work fine but I haven't used it on a day to day basis.
This controller allows you to set the flow rate and the pressure separately.
Ive been looking on line for the website I got it from but can't find it at the moment. When I do I will post a link.
Jeff Wible said
Dec 20, 2018
Thanks Michael,..I've seen a few that looked more sophisticated than the one I have. They were made for you window guys. The issue I did see with them though was the amp rating. At least the one I have now does have a 30 AMP rating. I'm going to experiment at some point jut for the fun of it and see what I come up with. And anything you could provide would be helpful. Would be nice to make a larger pump more versatile with a dial.
The little bit of reading I've done on PWM is they regulate the speed of the pump,..but the torque stays the same? Which,.I think would allow for a simple downsizing of nozzles to get the PSI and spray pattern at the lower speed of the pump? I've also seen where some of the better ones want you to bypass the pressure switch and allow the PWM to control that stop and start?
* I don't have a serious reason for this to work,..but I do like versatility in any tool.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Thursday 20th of December 2018 05:45:21 AM
Jeff Wible said
Dec 31, 2018
I played with the PWM on a small 2 gpm pump the other day,..it worked very well,..basically controlling the speed like a trolling motor,..you can run the pump very slow and it effectively turns the 2 GPM pump into an 0-2 GPM pump,..with infinite control over that range. Very easy to hook up,..and will allow a a 12V pump to be much more versatile. I seen alot of guys online using these for cheaper trolling motors that don't have infinite control,..but they have speeds,..like 1,2,3. A PWM offers them infinite control,..and conserves battery life.
I did hook up the Fatboy and it worked to control the speed,... I just didn't have it actually spraying,...but I think it will work. Maybe gonna try it today. Would be nice to use one pump for multiple applications. And although you couldn't adjust on the fly,..would still be nice to adjust it one way for a big roof,.and dial it down for a fence. The PWM I have is actually 40 AMP,..and very reasonable at less than $10.
Chris Tucker also talked about this a couple times over the years,...but landed on deaf ears. Not sure why,..seems if it works and is stable,..would be a huge improvement in 12V pumps. You could even simply have it wired with plugs,..and just use it when you need it. Would literally take about 10 seconds to plug it inline. Just goes between battery and pump.
Glad you mentioned this on here Michael Hickey,..but again,..it seemed to have fell on deaf ears. Glad I seen it. I love versatility,..even if used sparingly.
So if this works,..a Fatboy will be a Fatboy and also a 5850,..and even a small 1 GPM,..if ever needed. I actually like 1 GPM for certain jobs,..like vinyl rail fences where less runoff and overspray is an issue with too much GPM.
I will keep my results posted.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Monday 31st of December 2018 06:18:00 AM
Jeff Wible said
Jan 10, 2019
Update on this idea: The DC motor controller,..(PWM) works very well at controlling the speed of the motor thus controlling the flow. But,..although the Fatboy can be turned down,..it can't be turned down to 1 GPM,..it likes to see more juice than that,...But,..it can successfully be dialed down to around the output of a 5850,..which is still handy. Gives an option to slow the flow down on smaller jobs,..but can still use it as the Fatboy. I think the relay is the reason it can't be dialed down that low,..just kinda' buzzes at the lower voltage?
Using the PWM on the 5850 can be dialed down to a trickle. You can dial it down to where the flow is almost nothing,..I messed with it for about an hour,..and I didn't see anything weird happen. Does sound odd though to hear a motor run so slow,....I was using the nozzles I use with my 1 GPM units,..and it worked really well,..nothing got hot or anything like that. I think any pump without a relay can be dialed down to very slow.
I still have my AODD,..and it is nice to be able dial way down on fences and other certain jobs where the flow needs to be less,....but,..I think anyone with a 12V 5850 or equivalent has the option with a simple PWM. I will be using it especially during the cooler months when the AODD pulsates terribly.
Jeff
Chris said
Jan 31, 2019
I just had a question for you guys that run the Booster pumps.
It seems like some people out there that have the booster pumps never have problems with them but it seems like
A lot more people have all kinds of issues with them than those that don't have problems. Does anyone have ideas why?
Do you think they are not rinsing them out enough?
Maybe not turning them off when not in use (not using the pro switch)?
I have thought a lot about getting one but when more people have problems with them than not, it makes me wonder what is
Really going on here.
Thank you.
Jeff Wible said
Jan 31, 2019
Hey Chris,..I don't use or advocate the use of booster pumps,...just doesn't interest me. But,..I think the answer to your question is likely simple,..most likely why some have terrible luck with 12V while others run them a year without issue,..I would guess,..User error in both cases. Not setup properly or as you mention,..too damn lazy to rinse. But wiring and rinsing are both user error,..along with simple lack of understanding the tool and application.
Jeff
BlueRidge said
Jan 31, 2019
Jeff is dead on Chris. We have two boosters on a remote switch instead of the pro switch. One I have had no trouble, the other problems.
Nothing but user error. I make it so simple to rinse these pumps but when there is someone in a bigger hurry to get back to the some and go home, the rinsing is what suffers. I know this for a fact after taking the pump apart and replacing diffuses/impellers in just three months on a new pump. The other is letting it run too long before hitting the remote switch.
I am convinced to rinse unless the house is on the same street. SH is corrosive, we all know that. When it dries it is salt that is abrasive. Two plastic parts, dried slat, spinning really fast... seems to me that isn't a good situation. I will keep training to rinse, rinse, rinse,
Jeff Wible said
Jan 31, 2019
On the importance of rinsing,..Brett is right,..many just don't get the importance,..I rinse anytime I can as long as it's not taking away from the job. For instance: I use 12V dedicated spot spot sprayers that run 12.5% straight,..as soon as I use them,..I pull the pickup hose out and simply use a small container of water and rinse the pump right away,...very simple,..and makes a pump last literally about 5 times longer,..if not more.
*The 12V I use for my DS setup doesn't get that lucky,..just not practical to rinse everytime between applications. But,..as soon as the last DS'ing is done,..the water valve gets turned,..and gets alot of water run through it.
I gave my boat bottom cleaning business to a buddy of mine,..and I set him up with 12V,..and told him to rinse,..well he learned the hard way,...and admitted it,.Ha, Ha,..
Jeff
Chris said
Feb 1, 2019
Thanks for the great information guys.
BlueRidge said
Feb 1, 2019
Chris wrote:
Thanks for the great information guys.
See what you have been missing Chris? Good answers without the smart ass remarks, lonely (selfie) videos and not one newbie telling you his best guess!
Maverick Contracting said
Feb 2, 2019
With every newbie cutting and pasting regurgitated info as their own "knowledge", how long till someone cuts and pastes a vid only modified with a cropped drivers lic. picture pasted over the original vid. makers face trying to pass it off as their own vid.
I am likely going to setup a 5850 and FatBoy for roof cleaning this season. I Like the All-Flo AODD,...but there is one thing I really hate,..and that is the colder months the pump pulsates very bad,..like it's working hard,..and it's harder to control accuracy. Shoots 10 ft. then 30 ft. between pulses.
Anyhow, my question is do you guys run the PW and 12V off same battery and count on the PW to keep the battery charged up? Makes sense to me and is how I was planning on doing it,..but I seen where Ed Thompson said when the Fatboy was pulling more AMPS than the 20 AMP Honda could put out it ruined his charging system. And I'm talking about running them both at the same time, because I run the PW to keep surroundings wet,..so both would be running at the same time,...is this an issue with the Fatboy?
I've read enough to see that guys do run the same battery and count on the machine to charge the battery,..but what I didn't see was anyone who stated they were running both at the same time.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Wednesday 5th of December 2018 05:57:37 AM
I must tell you that we switched over to the booster pumps ( still have a 12 volt for back up) but they are really reliable and spray a very consistent pattern. You just need to carry a generator around with you which is no big deal. The 12 volt pumps just got to be be too much of a pain especially when they would just die in the middle of the job. This combined with the proportioner we are able to go from roof cleaning right into house washing. We only use the pw for rinsing( 2 men on the job). Sometimes we will use the pw with downstream but not very often.
That is the same thing we are doing. We use the FB for smaller roofs and for filling the DS tank that we don't use much anymore. Basically, the FB is a back up.
With the batteries in parallel, that's enough to go all day with the FB alone. Good idea Mike!
I have one truck still set up like it was three years ago with a dedicated battery for the generator and 12V pump. Always plugged in at night to a truck mounted trickle charger. I do think it get's topped off from the generator. The new build is wired from the PW battery with no issue and like Mike, it is running the entire time for rinsing and seldom powers the pump when the PW is off.
I don't doubt the booster pump works well,..I just prefer DS'ing and one hose with a wider range of PSI,..especially during windy conditions. I'm sure they are great for roof spraying,..I don't doubt it,..but the AC current and the life expectancy doesn't warrant the cost per piece at this point. Would be different if there weren't options. And,.. I hardly have room for me,..let alone a generator, Ha,Ha,.. These 12V will only be used sparingly,..like during the colder months on roofs.
Thanks Again,
Jeff
Jeff
I have a 1hp booster that sprays much stronger than the 3/4 hp but uses a bigger generator. I also have these attached to a remote control to turn on and off so that my plumbing is still kept simple. We are able to still use these for house washing even in windy conditions.
What pump are you using from Northern Tool? I tried one and when I went to rebuild the impellers and diffuses I found everything to be plastic. Also, I haven't found one that is SS, just cast iron. I'd love to save $400.00 a pump!
Now that things have changed so much in the past eight years Bryan... I think that is the easiest way to go and not have to plug in to a charger each night.
Thanks for the input Bryan, glad to see you're still around. I will definitely be good then,..all I will be using the 12V pumps for is applying roof mix. Every now and then I will get into huge flat work that requires a higher percentage to clean, and will use it for that also. So my PW will keep the battery charged with no issue.
It was Ed Thompson who stated he had an issue,.and was told by one of the vendors that it was due to the Fatboy pulling too many amps. Didn't sound right to me,..and is why I asked the board. I trust Ed Thompson as well,..just wonder about how his issue was diagnosed is all.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Saturday 8th of December 2018 06:19:30 AM
Here's a pretty good explanation of relay and diode isolators.
Hey Ray...that's the route I was going to go if there was a possibility of running it off the PW would mess up the charging system. I read Ed Thompson had an issue,.and Bob at PressureTek told him it was due to the pump pulling too many amps? As I am also no genius when it comes to this I thought I'd ask the board. I think Ed Thompson may have had an underlying issue? Aside from the actual experiences of the guys here which I trust,...I also didn't see why it would burn up the charging system in the PW engine.
*Regarding pulling charge from my van,..I actually do that already,..I have three battery operated sprayers with small 3AH batteries,..and I keep them plugged in and never have to manually charge them. Works very well.
Jeff
Hey Michael,..sounds like an isolator and is a good idea when running without the washer being on,.I don't really foresee me running it that way,..Never say never though!
I also read on here where you mentioned a few times about using a PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) to control the speed of you 12v motor. My question to you is: If I have say a 5 GPM 12v pump running at 60@ PSI,..and you turn the motor down with the,...to say 2 GPM how does that affect PSI if you use the nozzle for a 2 GPM pump? Is it basically like having a small pump? If so,..that would make a pump like a 5850 or Fatboy more versatile. I actually have the same PWM you highlighted in one of your posts,..and when I hooked it up to just the motor it did effectively turn down the speed,...just like a heater fan or a trolling motor....But,..I am tore down at the moment and didn't get a chance to test it through 200' of hose yet.
Jeff
This controller allows you to set the flow rate and the pressure separately.
Ive been looking on line for the website I got it from but can't find it at the moment. When I do I will post a link.
Thanks Michael,..I've seen a few that looked more sophisticated than the one I have. They were made for you window guys. The issue I did see with them though was the amp rating. At least the one I have now does have a 30 AMP rating. I'm going to experiment at some point jut for the fun of it and see what I come up with. And anything you could provide would be helpful. Would be nice to make a larger pump more versatile with a dial.
The little bit of reading I've done on PWM is they regulate the speed of the pump,..but the torque stays the same? Which,.I think would allow for a simple downsizing of nozzles to get the PSI and spray pattern at the lower speed of the pump? I've also seen where some of the better ones want you to bypass the pressure switch and allow the PWM to control that stop and start?
* I don't have a serious reason for this to work,..but I do like versatility in any tool.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Thursday 20th of December 2018 05:45:21 AM
I played with the PWM on a small 2 gpm pump the other day,..it worked very well,..basically controlling the speed like a trolling motor,..you can run the pump very slow and it effectively turns the 2 GPM pump into an 0-2 GPM pump,..with infinite control over that range. Very easy to hook up,..and will allow a a 12V pump to be much more versatile. I seen alot of guys online using these for cheaper trolling motors that don't have infinite control,..but they have speeds,..like 1,2,3. A PWM offers them infinite control,..and conserves battery life.
I did hook up the Fatboy and it worked to control the speed,... I just didn't have it actually spraying,...but I think it will work. Maybe gonna try it today. Would be nice to use one pump for multiple applications. And although you couldn't adjust on the fly,..would still be nice to adjust it one way for a big roof,.and dial it down for a fence. The PWM I have is actually 40 AMP,..and very reasonable at less than $10.
Chris Tucker also talked about this a couple times over the years,...but landed on deaf ears. Not sure why,..seems if it works and is stable,..would be a huge improvement in 12V pumps. You could even simply have it wired with plugs,..and just use it when you need it. Would literally take about 10 seconds to plug it inline. Just goes between battery and pump.
Glad you mentioned this on here Michael Hickey,..but again,..it seemed to have fell on deaf ears. Glad I seen it. I love versatility,..even if used sparingly.
So if this works,..a Fatboy will be a Fatboy and also a 5850,..and even a small 1 GPM,..if ever needed. I actually like 1 GPM for certain jobs,..like vinyl rail fences where less runoff and overspray is an issue with too much GPM.
I will keep my results posted.
Jeff
-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Monday 31st of December 2018 06:18:00 AM
Using the PWM on the 5850 can be dialed down to a trickle. You can dial it down to where the flow is almost nothing,..I messed with it for about an hour,..and I didn't see anything weird happen. Does sound odd though to hear a motor run so slow,....I was using the nozzles I use with my 1 GPM units,..and it worked really well,..nothing got hot or anything like that. I think any pump without a relay can be dialed down to very slow.
I still have my AODD,..and it is nice to be able dial way down on fences and other certain jobs where the flow needs to be less,....but,..I think anyone with a 12V 5850 or equivalent has the option with a simple PWM. I will be using it especially during the cooler months when the AODD pulsates terribly.
Jeff
It seems like some people out there that have the booster pumps never have problems with them but it seems like
A lot more people have all kinds of issues with them than those that don't have problems. Does anyone have ideas why?
Do you think they are not rinsing them out enough?
Maybe not turning them off when not in use (not using the pro switch)?
I have thought a lot about getting one but when more people have problems with them than not, it makes me wonder what is
Really going on here.
Thank you.
Jeff
Jeff is dead on Chris. We have two boosters on a remote switch instead of the pro switch. One I have had no trouble, the other problems.
Nothing but user error. I make it so simple to rinse these pumps but when there is someone in a bigger hurry to get back to the some and go home, the rinsing is what suffers. I know this for a fact after taking the pump apart and replacing diffuses/impellers in just three months on a new pump. The other is letting it run too long before hitting the remote switch.
I am convinced to rinse unless the house is on the same street. SH is corrosive, we all know that. When it dries it is salt that is abrasive. Two plastic parts, dried slat, spinning really fast... seems to me that isn't a good situation. I will keep training to rinse, rinse, rinse,
*The 12V I use for my DS setup doesn't get that lucky,..just not practical to rinse everytime between applications. But,..as soon as the last DS'ing is done,..the water valve gets turned,..and gets alot of water run through it.
I gave my boat bottom cleaning business to a buddy of mine,..and I set him up with 12V,..and told him to rinse,..well he learned the hard way,...and admitted it,.Ha, Ha,..
Jeff
See what you have been missing Chris? Good answers without the smart ass remarks, lonely (selfie) videos and not one newbie telling you his best guess!