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Bruce Sullivan · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Launch Of A New Exterior Cleaning Directory

waxman18324 · Founding Member Rest in Peace

Bruce,

Who is running this site? Just the name of the head person. The reason I ask is my company is listed several times for PA and I don't even recognize the site or remember being advised that I had joined.

Hank

Capital Roof Wash · Approved Exterior Cleaner

waxman18324 wrote:
Bruce,

Who is running this site? Just the name of the head person. The reason I ask is my company is listed several times for PA and I don't even recognize the site or remember being advised that I had joined.

Hank

Lucky you Hank! We aren't even listed once. Jeesh!

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Art O · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I signed up for it about a month ago. I think its hooked up to some kind of yellow page listing directory. I see a lot of Power Washers in my area listed also. No biggie Hank its nothing that you arn't listed in allready. I don't think they just put you in at random. You were already listed some where out there.

waxman18324 · Founding Member Rest in Peace

Art,

I'm not upset. More curious than anything. I'm just trying to figure out if it's due to my old age that I can't remember signing up.

Hank

Liberty SoftWash · PWS Vender

That's great Bruce.

Diamond Roof Cleaning · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Looks like my company got overlooked on this project. I guess I'm just not that good of a roof cleaner. Boowho for me. Lol.

Patrick G · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Mike you just add yourself...just sign up.

gutterdog · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I put in my zip code, wow already there! Thanks Bruce! I'll look more into this later.

John Aloisio · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Site looks good Bruce. Thanks

Diamond Roof Cleaning · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Pat yeah I added myself last nite thanks.

Andy Hinson · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Is there a way to extend listing to other zip codes

Diamond Roof Cleaning · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Yes you have to upgrade your membership. I think its 15 per month.

Eric Schnaible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I paid for the last roof cleaning directory you came out with Bruce. Plenty of other local cleaners were already listed on this new one. I had to do mine manually. I won't be paying this time.

Zach Maynard · Approved Exterior Cleaner

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Bruce Sullivan · Approved Exterior Cleaner

waxman18324 wrote:
Art,

I'm not upset. More curious than anything. I'm just trying to figure out if it's due to my old age that I can't remember signing up.

Hank

We screened a lot of exterior cleaners to see who had a serious service. Out of 7500 exterior cleaners in U.S. and Canada we ended up with about 3800. You'll find if you didn't claim a free listing you are not listed anymore.

If anyone goes to the directory now and type in your zip code search or city, you'll only see those that " have" signed up. It will stay that way going forward. All others that haven't claimed have been screened out.

Mark Dye from M & D Power Washing was the first one to get a closed lead off the directory. LOL A couple other s said they have been contacted.

One reason some were not listed was they didn't have a good contact -email or form on their web site. There were many that didn't. A potential customer needs to be able to contact. The contacts are direct, not through the directory.

It will be a work in progress. Everything takes time. I paid for it yearly, cheaper and know it will just grow over time. When someone does join they need to fill out all their links at the bottom of their profile page i.e. web site, Facebook, Google+, Twitter etc. because this directory has great link juice. It was designed that way. That is why every member has "their" own mini web site. Also they should put in a profile picture of themselves.

Even though someone isn't listed anymore doesn't mean they cannot sign up still for free. Though we will screen them before listing. This directory, for members, is for quality over quantity and we only want safe and professional members.

We have one person that monitors this directory daily.

Bruce Sullivan · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Eric Schnaible wrote:
I paid for the last roof cleaning directory you came out with Bruce. Plenty of other local cleaners were already listed on this new one. I had to do mine manually. I won't be paying this time.

Just for the record. You didn't pay to join PRCA. You paid Laura to put your code for your web site on the map. It was a one time $10.00 charge, had to write code to do that.

This directory is different because each member has " their " own mini web site. Their listing will be as good as " they " make it. As for paying that is anyone's choice. Though paid will list over free members.

The reason we went for the " mini web site "option is we wanted every member to own their own listing, not the directory. We will market the directory. You'll see each mini web site has it's own built in SEO options.

As I have stated before we don't want quantity, we want quality service providers. If you go to the directory today and type in your zip code or city you'll only see "those" that have joined in that location.

I can assure you " I" will fill the directory over time. Just a work in progress.

Personally I would like to see one or two professional service providers in each location/city etc. because the directory is designed for the potential customer.

As for members, just another opportunity to get their service out front. Plus the directory is SEO to the hilt, provided everyone fills out their listing with the linking options. Like anything else will be as good as you make it.

Just for the record. The PRCA site generated over 100 roof cleaning leads to members. I also got 74 e-mails from potential customers looking for a roof cleaner because no one was listed in the map for their area.

I am sure some have seen me posting leads on the forums which came from PRCA last year.

I track all web sites. We have a person that monitors the directory daily.

Like anything the directory will take time to get legs but when it starts those there will benefit. There are no magic pills to take, but it will only work if you work it. I'll work it. LOL

John Aloisio · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I was listed now I'm gone...interesting

Liberty SoftWash · PWS Vender

Me too!

Art O · Approved Exterior Cleaner

You guys must be unknown to the Exterior Cleaning Industry.

Ed Thompson · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I paid for membership. It allowed me 15 cities. I am at the top of the page. There a 3 to 5 companies listed for cities that I paid for. Granted I am at the top and Im the only one that shows Im a pro member. Another non-pro member is listed as a verified business which gives an edge over me. Listing 1 company as verified also says that the other companies are "unverified". I would not hire an "unverified" company and I think most others also would not.

Im not knocking, I want it to work. I cannot see much advantage of paying accept that I am at the top of the page with other free listing. Bruce maybe you can explain the benefit of paid over not paid.

How are some companies listed as "verified company"? What makes them "verified"?

Im sure others would pay if there was a measurable benefit. Help me out here Bruce.

Thanks,
Ed

-- Edited by Ed Thompson on Sunday 2nd of March 2014 02:36:24 PM

John Aloisio · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I just checked again and now im back.

Liberty SoftWash · PWS Vender

Not me! I am gone.

Ed Thompson · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Anything like this is great for your local search. Some other online directories like www.roofcleaningcontractors.com was rating well on local searches because I was taking the time to create pages. i think Barry is the guy who made this. But it seems like he bailed on it. He would upload blogs, you cant do it yourself. There are 1 or 2 city blogs I wrote but he doesnt put them up. The guy disappeared or maybe he thought he was gonna bank roll a huge residual income.

Bruce Sullivan · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Ed Thompson wrote:
I paid for membership. It allowed me 15 cities. I am at the top of the page. There a 3 to 5 companies listed for cities that I paid for. Granted I am at the top and Im the only one that shows Im a pro member. Another non-pro member is listed as a verified business which gives an edge over me. Listing 1 company as verified also says that the other companies are "unverified". I would not hire an "unverified" company and I think most others also would not.

Im not knocking, I want it to work. I cannot see much advantage of paying accept that I am at the top of the page with other free listing. Bruce maybe you can explain the benefit of paid over not paid.

How are some companies listed as "verified company"? What makes them "verified"?

Im sure others would pay if there was a measurable benefit. Help me out here Bruce.

Thanks,
Ed

Ed. For someone like you just click get verified and enter your web site. We do the verifying. Just away to make sure no one slips through that won't fit. But you have to click the verified link for use to verify or anyone could just do it.
I am posting an update right now after this reply. We are weeding out the listings as we go. We work with Yoast.com for our SEO. Each location that has members we have a blog writer that will be also blogging that location.
Read the new posted update and it will explain paid over not paid. In short, unpaid cannot get a direct lead, the paid do. Should an unpaid member get a lead request in your location if no paid members we will forward to them, if paid members we would forward to them. Nothing personal, just good business.

waxman18324 · Founding Member Rest in Peace

Bruce,

Now that you've clarified things a bit I've taken advantage of the free listing. Like others I would like to see this benefit not only me but the members here on NSWA. My decision to become a paying member/contractor will be made after additional clarification

Hank

Barry R · Veteran Member

Ed Thompson wrote:
Anything like this is great for your local search. Some other online directories like www.roofcleaningcontractors.com was rating well on local searches because I was taking the time to create pages. i think Barry is the guy who made this. But it seems like he bailed on it. He would upload blogs, you cant do it yourself. There are 1 or 2 city blogs I wrote but he doesnt put them up. The guy disappeared or maybe he thought he was gonna bank roll a huge residual income.

Incredible!

There are 22 articles, 8 are yours. Not one of the draft or pending articles are yours....every article you've submitted is live. Your last article was on Jan 9 2014....

There are some pending listings and articles...most are either blank or have 1-2 sentences. Even then, I email and call before I kill these, usually at least 3 times. I get about 1:15 returned calls and email replies. I care more then they do.

I've spent the last 8 hours fixing premium accounts and customizing their map infobox. Yours took about 30 minutes longer because I had to photoshop your logo so you would have an image in your infobox like everyone else.

Yesterday I spent about 6 hours coding in the import feature that will allow premium members to auto post to the directory by posting on their site

Last week I spent about 6 hours fixing articles so there was an image that showed up in the blog index...that included at least an hour on your listing and website looking for images. http://roofcleaningcontractors.com/articles/

Two weeks ago I spent about 15 hours upgrading the site....

I have been implementing the new features as I get time...more are coming.

Oh....and after the upgrade, I extended every person that was premium member from Jan 1 2013 to Feb 2014 to two years....doubled their term. Ed, You wont have to pay again till Nov 2015

As far as bank roll...I did this for the industry and the income I received based on time spent means I work for all of you people for about $5 an hour....unless you include the actual money I've spent....then I work for about $1 an hour.

I'm not sure what you expect.....or why you wrote what you did.

Ed Thompson · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Ok chill. I said it ranks well because it does. I'm pretty sure there were 2 cities that I sent that didn't get put up. I didn't cancel the service. I haven't seen you around so I thought you bailed on it. It's possible I thought I sent it but I really didn't. I don't think I said anything too far out. I would love to have the ability to create a good directory and create residual income. Kudos. I'm glad your around. Weird timing, you must have just signed on as I posted.

Ed Thompson · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Barry says he's on the case. Ive been on Barry's directory since it started and I would recommend anyone serious about using all available resources to dominate their area to check this out. And Barry probably undercharges a bit, don't ell him I said that www.roofcleaningcontractors.com

Art O · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Everybody is Bitchie Today. Must be the weather!