Power Washing and Roof Cleaning Forum

Welcome to the National Soft Wash Alliance, America's Number One Networking and Training Forum. Join Today, Donations to keep the forum going are accepted, Bottom of the Home Page
Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Post Info TOPIC: Need powerwasher and surface cleaner


Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 840
Date:
Need powerwasher and surface cleaner
Permalink  
 


Been considering it for a while but the time has come where I have to get a powerwasher and surface cleaner. 

Been asked to clean 10k sq ft of composite decking, plus a few thousand sq ft of pavers. 

 

Looking for suggestions on 5gpm machine and SC that will not break the bank.  Need to purchase immediately.  Thanks in advance for any suggestions 

 



__________________

 

Dirty-Roof.com

Roof Cleaning and Power Washing Services 

 

Slate Roof Cleaning Long Island NY

516-804-0447



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 872
Date:
Permalink  
 

I'll say that the Whisper Wash classic is great and worth paying a little more. I have a 5.5gpm 4000psi cold water dragon from Power Wash store

__________________
ss-logo2.png

Bryan Parris
Shine System
ShineSystem.net
Facebook.com/ShineSystemTN
Knoxville, TN
(865) 643-4227



Founding Member Rest in Peace

Status: Offline
Posts: 3065
Date:
Permalink  
 

An overwhelming choice amongst us will be the WW Classic.

Hank

__________________

Pocono Non Pressure Roof & Exterior Cleaning, LLC

Stroudsburg, PA 18360

The Machine

Serving the Pocono and Lehigh Valley(Carbon, Lehigh, Northampton, Monroe, Pike and Wayne Counties), PA community as well as both Warren and Sussex Counties of New Jersey



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 5165
Date:
Permalink  
 

Eric here's a Vanguard PW. Some guys like the motor, some guys don't

www.watercannon.com/p-3183-vanguard-18hp-electric-start-gp-55gpm-4000psi.aspx

Heres a Honda

www.stealthpressurewashers.com/product/vb5535vgea411-stealth-gp-belt-drive-pressure-washers-5-5-gpm/

Search around. Shipping counts these days, Try Amazon Too!

__________________

            clean rite logo (3).jpg

                          Suffolk County Long Island New York

                     Power Washing and Roof Cleaning Long Island

                                          Clean Rite Blog

 

 

 

                  

                    

              

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 840
Date:
Permalink  
 

Considering im not sure whether im going with a 4 gal machine or a 5.5+ What are your thoughts on

whisper wash ultra clean 19"

Or

GP hanmerhead 20" DCFSCP20GZ

__________________

 

Dirty-Roof.com

Roof Cleaning and Power Washing Services 

 

Slate Roof Cleaning Long Island NY

516-804-0447



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 840
Date:
Permalink  
 

Just saw this package. Will probably order this. I also believe I can upgrade to a bigger pump if the need arises in the future. Any major issues with this set up I should know about?

https://www.pressurewashersdirect.com/BE-PE-4013HWPSCOMZ-HWTB/p50926.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=dynamic+pads&utm_campaign=PE-4013HWPSCOMZ-HWTB



-- Edited by DirtyRoofcom on Wednesday 19th of April 2017 08:43:10 PM

__________________

 

Dirty-Roof.com

Roof Cleaning and Power Washing Services 

 

Slate Roof Cleaning Long Island NY

516-804-0447



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 872
Date:
Permalink  
 

I'm sure the deck, bar and swivel are the same on that ultra clean as the classic, but I like the aluminum handle setup on the classic.

__________________
ss-logo2.png

Bryan Parris
Shine System
ShineSystem.net
Facebook.com/ShineSystemTN
Knoxville, TN
(865) 643-4227



Founding Member Rest in Peace

Status: Offline
Posts: 3065
Date:
Permalink  
 

Bryan P wrote:

I'm sure the deck, bar and swivel are the same on that ultra clean as the classic, but I like the aluminum handle setup on the classic.


 I wouldn't count on that sc being anywhere as good as a WW classic. 

Hank



__________________

Pocono Non Pressure Roof & Exterior Cleaning, LLC

Stroudsburg, PA 18360

The Machine

Serving the Pocono and Lehigh Valley(Carbon, Lehigh, Northampton, Monroe, Pike and Wayne Counties), PA community as well as both Warren and Sussex Counties of New Jersey



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 872
Date:
Permalink  
 

waxman18324 wrote:
Bryan P wrote:

I'm sure the deck, bar and swivel are the same on that ultra clean as the classic, but I like the aluminum handle setup on the classic.


 I wouldn't count on that sc being anywhere as good as a WW classic. 

Hank


 Reason I say that is that I have a "lil guy" and it looks like that ultra clean.  Has the same bar and swivel as my classic. I love the classic though.  If you get a 4 or 5 gpm, get the classic two nozzle.  



__________________
ss-logo2.png

Bryan Parris
Shine System
ShineSystem.net
Facebook.com/ShineSystemTN
Knoxville, TN
(865) 643-4227



Founding Member Rest in Peace

Status: Offline
Posts: 3065
Date:
Permalink  
 

DirtyRoofcom wrote:

Just saw this package. Will probably order this. I also believe I can upgrade to a bigger pump if the need arises in the future. Any major issues with this set up I should know about?

https://www.pressurewashersdirect.com/BE-PE-4013HWPSCOMZ-HWTB/p50926.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=dynamic+pads&utm_campaign=PE-4013HWPSCOMZ-HWTB



-- Edited by DirtyRoofcom on Wednesday 19th of April 2017 08:43:10 PM


That 18' yellow noodle is a waste. Is that a direct drive pump? If it were my pocket book I would go with a belt driven machine with a general pump. Less chance of cavitation and you can pull from a buffer tank. Yes you'll spend a little more upfront money but can make it back in upsells and time saving on each job. Just my two cents.

Hank



__________________

Pocono Non Pressure Roof & Exterior Cleaning, LLC

Stroudsburg, PA 18360

The Machine

Serving the Pocono and Lehigh Valley(Carbon, Lehigh, Northampton, Monroe, Pike and Wayne Counties), PA community as well as both Warren and Sussex Counties of New Jersey



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 5165
Date:
Permalink  
 

Stay away from the GP surface cleaner, Junk

__________________

            clean rite logo (3).jpg

                          Suffolk County Long Island New York

                     Power Washing and Roof Cleaning Long Island

                                          Clean Rite Blog

 

 

 

                  

                    

              

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 1437
Date:
Permalink  
 

The WW Classic is a very smooth operating machine and does an excellent job. So that's definitely the surface cleaner you want. I know you are considering a 5 GPM machine,..but you'd be so much happier with an 8 or 10. The speed and rinsing power of higher GPM is unmatched. I know money is an issue,.but I still had to throw it out there. I used 4.6 GPM for years and made lots of money with it,..but when I went to the higher GPM machines,..I would never go back.

Do NOT use the surface cleaner on a composite deck,..Composite are easily damaged,..especially if you stop the surface cleaner anywhere,..there'll likely be a circle. Not to mention it's more work than simply applying roof strength SH and rinsing.

Jeff

__________________

Raystown Pressure Washing

Since 1996



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 1299
Date:
Permalink  
 

Like Jeff said, do not pressure wash that composite. We use anywhere from a strong house mix up to a roof mix to clean them, depending on infestation. The bad ones need a little light scrubbing with a deck brush but that's it. I have three WW classics and a GP I started with.....the GP is kind of a paperweight now. We use the same 5.5 machines Bryan uses from Water Dragon and they work for us. If you plan on doing a ton of pressure washing and a lot of flat work, spend the money on the 8 gpm machine. We don't really use them for more than just moderate flat work, because 85% of my business is softwashing with a 12 volt pump.



__________________

 

 roofwizardlogo.png
John Aloisio - Owner

The Roof Wizard - Non Pressure Roof & Exterior Cleaning

880 S. Grand St. , Hammonton, NJ 08037

John@theroofwizard.net

www.theroofwizard.net

609-705-0093 

     

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 840
Date:
Permalink  
 

Thanks for the input guys. An 8gpm machine is out of the question.

My intentions with the composite decking is to cover alot of ground quicker w low pressure rather than blasting it w high pressure. Plus parts of it are over water and won't be treating it with SH. 20k sf. is alot of decking to do. Mostly bird poop, some algae, and dirt from foot traffic.

Am I able to use surface cleaner with the pressure turned down low on composite type decking? Maybe get certain Nozzles /spray tips for this project? This is also commercial grade decking.



__________________

 

Dirty-Roof.com

Roof Cleaning and Power Washing Services 

 

Slate Roof Cleaning Long Island NY

516-804-0447



Veteran Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 27
Date:
Permalink  
 

Adjustable wands are nice for changing your pressure on the go.



__________________

Brett Slater

Power Wash Plus

(219)878-1245

www.PWPsoftwash.com

 

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 1437
Date:
Permalink  
 

Without seeing it,..all I can do is give you my experiences. You can likely make it better with just water,..but I know you won't be able to get it totally clean,.just ain't gonna happen,..composite decking is easy to clean with proper method/chemicals. It is impossible to clean totally with just water. Basically just rinsing it.

So,.do a demo for them and tell them that is what they are going to get. Because just water isn't gonna do a thorough job,.I'd also do it in the rain, so what is on there will be softened up some.

I wouldn't use a surface cleaner on composite decking. If the material is more like a real plastic and not composite you could maybe use it? There is one deck I do every year,.it is the best of the "composite" decks I've ever seen. It doesn't fade and is tough as nails, and is more like they ALL should be,..when it comes to fake decking. This stuff would handle PSI and a surface cleaner.

*You said composite decking and that's all we can take it for,..the normal garbage material we all run into, so we're giving advice on that.

Jeff



-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Friday 21st of April 2017 05:36:44 AM

__________________

Raystown Pressure Washing

Since 1996



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 5165
Date:
Permalink  
 

I would pass on that Deck, If the DEC comes walking by you will have Big Time trouble and Big time fines. They are the worst to deal with.

__________________

            clean rite logo (3).jpg

                          Suffolk County Long Island New York

                     Power Washing and Roof Cleaning Long Island

                                          Clean Rite Blog

 

 

 

                  

                    

              

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 3107
Date:
Permalink  
 

Listen to what Jeff is saying and be careful over the water.

"Am I able to use surface cleaner with the pressure turned down low on composite type decking? Maybe get certain Nozzles /spray tips for this project? This is also commercial grade decking."

IPE can handle a surface cleaner turned turn with a ball valve. I would never touch a composite deck with a surface cleaner.

Get 4010 pressure washer tip which will not mark up the deck and remove the top coating. This tip is what we use on all decking and wood cleaning.



__________________

 

 

Brett Thompson

Blue Ridge Exterior Cleaning

BlueRidgeExteriorCleaning.com

434-466-1324    540-949-6277

brett@BlueRidgeExteriorCleaning.com



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 1822
Date:
Permalink  
 

i've got a 5.6 machine and two 8s as my main washers. I prefer the Honda engines over any other. I've been happy with my direct drives. Can't go wrong with a whisper wash classic, however I won't buy them for my crews anymore, since they are abusive.

__________________

Ray Burke

Spray Wash Exterior Cleaning

Tallahassee Kitchen Exhaust & Hood Cleaning

 Superior Commercial Exterior Cleaning in Tallahassee, Florida

http://www.spray-wash.com

 

850-528-3226

850-320-6364

 

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 230
Date:
Permalink  
 

I built my first surface cleaner. Still use it from time to time. I cut the top off a metal drum, welded angle iron on it to mount swivel wheels and a handle off an old push mower. Installed a whisper wash swivel assembly.

__________________

Kleen Roof & Exterior

616-914-9064

Michigan's Premier Roof Cleaning

Pressure Washing Michigan

Michigan Cedar Roof Pro

Dave Dykstra



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 840
Date:
Permalink  
 

SprayWash wrote:

i've got a 5.6 machine and two 8s as my main washers. I prefer the Honda engines over any other. I've been happy with my direct drives. Can't go wrong with a whisper wash classic, however I won't buy them for my crews anymore, since they are abusive.


 Ray what SC are you buying now instead?



__________________

 

Dirty-Roof.com

Roof Cleaning and Power Washing Services 

 

Slate Roof Cleaning Long Island NY

516-804-0447



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 840
Date:
Permalink  
 

Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions. Ive decided to hold off on purchasing for a lil while longer. There's a lot of points to consider and dont want to rush into it. I can always rent a unit if ineed to for a specific job.

Although this particular decking has been powerwashed (by others) many times in the past I know to trust the experience of you guys and find a alternative method.

Thanks again ERIK B.

__________________

 

Dirty-Roof.com

Roof Cleaning and Power Washing Services 

 

Slate Roof Cleaning Long Island NY

516-804-0447



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 1822
Date:
Permalink  
 

DirtyRoofcom wrote:
SprayWash wrote:

i've got a 5.6 machine and two 8s as my main washers. I prefer the Honda engines over any other. I've been happy with my direct drives. Can't go wrong with a whisper wash classic, however I won't buy them for my crews anymore, since they are abusive.


 Ray what SC are you buying now instead?


 i buy  the PSI brand SC. The are relatively cheap (275) and are bullet proof. Also has a greasable zert fitting for the swivel, and I can pick them up locally at my one pressure washing dealer.



__________________

Ray Burke

Spray Wash Exterior Cleaning

Tallahassee Kitchen Exhaust & Hood Cleaning

 Superior Commercial Exterior Cleaning in Tallahassee, Florida

http://www.spray-wash.com

 

850-528-3226

850-320-6364

 

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 496
Date:
Permalink  
 

We have a GP, but Bill Wilson had me change the spinner to a Mosmatic that adapted very easily. Now it acts like a pro! It is 3 or 4 years old and still spins like a helicopter when you let off the trigger. Pretty Cool!

I would not buy another one, but the Mosmatic spinner pretty much upgraded it. We have to keep it weighted with a brick when we run the 8 gpm Water Dragon...

All good though.

We actually have a 24" SC from Powerwashstore, but it seems slower than the smaller one on most residential applications.

JMHO

__________________

PAsoftwash Roof & Exterior Cleaning

Steve Salley

Indiana, PA

www. PAsoftwash.com

724-201-9274

steve@pasoftwash.com

Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us
Chatbox
Please log in to join the chat!