Power Washing and Roof Cleaning Forum

Welcome to the National Soft Wash Alliance, America's Number One Networking and Training Forum. Join Today, Donations to keep the forum going are accepted, Bottom of the Home Page
Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Post Info TOPIC: What Percentages of Surfactant


Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 69
Date:
What Percentages of Surfactant
Permalink  
 


I am looking for some assistance with getting my mix right.

 

I am using 10% SH and adding a masking agent which is lemon scented. I am also using a Ammonyx Lo as a base surfactant but feel the mix is still too liquid as I am seeing a lot of run off when applying to roofs. Ideally I would like it to be a bit thicker and sit and stick a bit more.

 

I am adding 2% by volume but think I might need a bit more.

 

Any advice greatly appreciated. Can anyone give me an indication by % as to what they are adding.

 

Thanks

 

Nick



__________________

Excess Cleaning. Exterior Cleaning Services.

Nick Hopkins

http://www.excesscleaning.com.au

Queensland Australia



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 723
Date:
Permalink  
 

Nick, is that a house wash mix?
On a standard asphalt roof we use 30% SH.
If it is for a roof. What type of roof is it?
1% ammonyx should be sufficient. It wont really get thicker using more.
You might need to apply less juice and just keep all areas wet but not so
Much that you have a Lot of run off.

__________________

PX LOGO

PacificExterior.com

San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz & Monterey Counties

 Office: (831) 275-1296   Cell (831) 212-1341

OUR HOMEPAGE VIDEO



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 868
Date:
Permalink  
 

We do one ounce per gallon of mix. For everything whether it be a house or a roof.

__________________

Cape Cod Roof Cleaning 

508-209-7795

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 760
Date:
Permalink  
 

For roofs, alot of guys are going to disagree... 4 cap fulls of roof snot per 5 gallons.

For houses we use power house from sunbrite. We dont use as much as they recommend either!

__________________

Affordable and Safe Soft Washing,

Roof Cleaning Service in Maryland,

PG county Maryland | Southern Maryland

 



PWS Vender

Status: Offline
Posts: 1770
Date:
Permalink  
 

I do a 50gl roof mix with 2 cups of roof snot.

__________________

Eric Seitz

Liberty SoftWash

(717) 324-4208

Roof Cleaner near York PA

Pressure Washer PA

Power Washing Equipment



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 203
Date:
Permalink  
 

Softwash Australia wrote:

I am looking for some assistance with getting my mix right.

 

I am using 10% SH and adding a masking agent which is lemon scented. I am also using a Ammonyx Lo as a base surfactant but feel the mix is still too liquid as I am seeing a lot of run off when applying to roofs. Ideally I would like it to be a bit thicker and sit and stick a bit more.

 

I am adding 2% by volume but think I might need a bit more.

 

Any advice greatly appreciated. Can anyone give me an indication by % as to what they are adding.

 

Thanks

 

Nick


2% should be more than adequate.  Practice with different application techniques and give your mix time to creep down the roof.  Perhaps try coating the bottom portion of the roof first, minimizing run off.  Then treat at the ridge over and over, allowing it to run only to where the top of the first application was.  Our foreman insists that he saves a lot more roof mix by doing it that way.  You'll find out what works for you, but it sounds like you're using PLENTY of surfactant.  Keep us posted on what works best and good luck!

Pssst - ensure that you put than run off to good use somewhere too.

 



__________________

Ted Saunders

Founder, American-ProTech

Roof Stain Removal Services

House Washing Services

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 1037
Date:
Permalink  
 

1 qt of snot on a 50 gallon mix. And it really slows the run off. I would like it thicker but then it would take longer for the mix to run down from the ridge. Look at your nozzle size because having adjusted my nozzles has helped my run off.

__________________

Brian C Jackson

35 Dodge Road

Pelham ,New Hampshire 03076

http://www.jacksoncontracting.net/roof-cleaning.html

(603)401-8408 

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 1822
Date:
Permalink  
 

Nick, as you can see surfactant use is all over the place. I don't think there is a "one size fits all" ratio for it.

On greenwash we use 64 OZ per 100 gallon for house mix, 64 per 50 Gallon for roof. Everything else is "cut to fit". Trial and error is the best thing i can recommend.

__________________

Ray Burke

Spray Wash Exterior Cleaning

Tallahassee Kitchen Exhaust & Hood Cleaning

 Superior Commercial Exterior Cleaning in Tallahassee, Florida

http://www.spray-wash.com

 

850-528-3226

850-320-6364

 

 



Retired Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 790
Date:
Permalink  
 

We use up to 6 cups of AO per 60 gallon solution depending on the slope of the roof.

__________________

Dave Otey

 Advantage Roof Cleaning Company

Certified Roof Cleaning Specialist

630-730-8105

Aurora, IL

 

Exterior soft wash cleaning, siding, roof cleaning and cedar shake cleaning 

 



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 69
Date:
Permalink  
 

Thanks for the feedback. I get that its a feel thing and that every situation requires its own consideration.

In saying that the average seems to be about 1% for roof and .5% for House wash. If I have my numbers right.

We do use metric here so there are conversions that are required .

Can anyone advise how much solution would be applied to a 21 Degree pitch cement tile roof that is 2000 sq feet. Obviously there are many factors to consider and variables but just looking for a rule of thumb so I can gauge what I am doing.

Thanks again.

Nick

__________________

Excess Cleaning. Exterior Cleaning Services.

Nick Hopkins

http://www.excesscleaning.com.au

Queensland Australia



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 106
Date:
Permalink  
 

1/2 cup to 50 gallons. The spray technique is what really saves from runoff. Most guys have been talked into unnecessarily high gpm pumps and whatnots that just add to the problem. We spray at 4.5gpm 70 psi.
The other thing I have found that adds to runoff is the quality of bleach many people are using. I keep meeting guys that have never seen real fresh bleach and don't realize it.

__________________

Bill Booz

Accuwash



Approved Exterior Cleaner

Status: Offline
Posts: 723
Date:
Permalink  
 

It depends Nick. A flat tile is different than a Spanish tile with valleys. Technique is definitely the key. Surfactant, instead of thickening, breaks down water tension and allows it to travel. When I have big roofs with lots of field, I really prefer a fat boy pump.

__________________

PX LOGO

PacificExterior.com

San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz & Monterey Counties

 Office: (831) 275-1296   Cell (831) 212-1341

OUR HOMEPAGE VIDEO

Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us
Chatbox
Please log in to join the chat!