Power Washing and Roof Cleaning Forum

Patrick G · Approved Exterior Cleaner

New Pump

DirtyRoofcom · Approved Exterior Cleaner

no more fatboy?

Fred W · Guru

So you're saying it has three wires instead of two?
Hard to tell from the pic.

Patrick G · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Erik this is a $450 pump ....I got a deal I couldn't refuse.......No it has two wires...the black on goes into the " body " ...just the red one is on the outside ready for wiring...

Maverick Contracting · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Ouch, if that's the old pentaflex 7gpm it's nothing but trouble .
First pump I bought, search the old rrrica for info, maybe updated but the relay is embedded in base, had to cut it out to fix

Art O · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Did you take them pictures with your grandfathers polaroid camera?

Fred W · Guru

Any pictures of the second wire where it enters and exits the body?
I think we're missing something here as it must have at least two wires to operate.

Do us a favor and take a few more pics.....but not with your dad's Polaroid.....:}

John Aloisio · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Pat,

Yes the negative is internal. The pump should have come with a wiring block for the two wires. Also, did Zach's skid have the on/off switch installed???? I did not see it in the pics you posted. They were always wired from the block to the switch and then to the breaker you showed. I attached a older pic of what mine looked like and I will take a pic at the shop later today and post for you. See the red arrow for the switch.

Hope this helps.

Art O · Approved Exterior Cleaner

John Aloisio wrote:
Pat,
Yes the negative is internal. The pump should have come with a wiring block for the two wires. Also, did Zach's skid have the on/off switch installed???? I did not see it in the pics you posted. They were always wired from the block to the switch and then to the breaker you showed. I attached a older pic of what mine looked like and I will take a pic at the shop later today and post for you. See the red arrow for the switch.
Hope this helps.

I think all that stuff was stripped out. I don't remember seeing all that stuff in there when we picked it up.

Patrick G · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Maverick it looks like the relay is on the outside. Thanks John...there is no on and off switch, do you know where I can get one? Do you think this pump is better then the fatboy? Like am I wasting my time with it? Also what is that round glass thing that came with it/

I know a lot of questions....T/Y

Diamond Roof Cleaning · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Pat the clear thing is a filter. I have only gotten 4 months tops out of those pumps and we rinsed everyday.

waxman18324 · Founding Member Rest in Peace

Dan Dykstra · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I also have had nothing but bad luck with those pumps, never use them again. Make sure you have a backup handy. I had a brand new one go out in 1 day.

John Aloisio · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Pat,

Any West Marine should have them or Grainger. That is a filter which I just tossed when I used them.

The have not made this pump for over 18 months now and you might have the last one in existence. Flojet replaced them with the VersaJet. I personally had decent luck with them and I liked the distance we got with them. I ordered the last 4 Dultmeier had at the end of 2014 and could not find anymore. Some guys had issues and some did not.

Art O · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Pat use the flojet for a Transfer pump in your new state of the art shop and the FatBoy you just ordered on your S/W Skid. Why screw around with a pump your not sure of?

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Diamond Roof Cleaning wrote:
Pat the clear thing is a filter. I have only gotten 4 months tops out of those pumps and we rinsed everyday.

Hey Mike,..when you say 4 months,...is that using it 3-4 days a week,..or more,....because seems to me that even at the cost of the pumps that still seems like a pretty good ROI? If it's problematic,..then all bets are off,..I hate problematic stuff. But,.if there is better,..then I agree,..that's still what you go with,..was just doing some rough head math real quick,Ha,Ha,..

*In this business,..you have to have really junky junk not to be able to turn a profit,..but the PITA factor is always there with junky junk,..even if it is making money.

Jeff

Patrick G · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Wow thanks for the great info Mike, John and my main man Hank. Art I think you are right a transfer pump....Don't let others know I have a shop now lol. I keep telling my wife " I'm going to my shop "

Diamond Roof Cleaning · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Jeff, Yes that was the longest I had one last. That was working 5-6 days a week. I had one crap out as quick as 2 weeks. I switched to the versa jet and I get about 6-7 months out of one. I also have a everflo and I got about six months out of that one as well.

I also have 2- 5850's for back up just in case.

Patrick G · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Mike do you like that pump better then the fatboy...and what do they run?

Diamond Roof Cleaning · Approved Exterior Cleaner

It's a 5 gpm pump and I like them especially with employees becuase they don't spray as much as the fatboys. I had 2 5850 last all season before. For 134 plus shipping they are good pumps.

Liberty SoftWash · PWS Vender

Diamond Roof Cleaning wrote:
It's a 5 gpm pump and I like them especially with employees becuase they don't spray as much as the fatboys. I had 2 5850 last all season before. For 134 plus shipping they are good pumps.

We only use the 5850s.

Maverick Contracting · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Mike what distance do you get with 5gpm assuming you're shooting at a 45 degree angle? They are damn cheap.

John Aloisio · Approved Exterior Cleaner

The Versa Jets are 6 gallon per minute and the work fine. Also, we used the same two pumps all last year and just changed out the head/check valves, which is a $40.00 and 10 minute fix. The motors really last long, it's the valves that go.

Diamond Roof Cleaning · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Maverick, you can get 20-25 ft with no wind. We usually walk the roof but you can definetly get away with this pump on most roofs from the gutter line.

Patrick G · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Erik your not hitting those colonials in your videos with a 5880...your useing that gas engine pump right?

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

You guys running 200' of 1/2" with the 5850's? What nozzle size,.30's or 40's,....is 20's doable?

Jeff

waxman18324 · Founding Member Rest in Peace

30's for me on the 5850. 40's for the fatboy.

Hank

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Thanks Hank,..which pump do you prefer as your everyday pump?

Jeff

waxman18324 · Founding Member Rest in Peace

Jeff,

Although we have used the fatboy we prefer the 5850. We rinse all pumps when finished.

Hank

Liberty SoftWash · PWS Vender

Patrick G wrote:
Erik your not hitting those colonials in your videos with a 5880...your useing that gas engine pump right?

Yes the udor, We just like using the 5850 for backup or transfer.