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Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

12V Hand Held Sprayer

Liberty SoftWash · PWS Vender

Nice, I am doing the same thing too.

Bryan P · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Seems like it would be good for a salesman doing demos too.

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I thought it may be a problem with the open top of the jug and wanting to tilt and spill,..but my playing around shows it doesn't seem to be an issue. You don't really even have to be careful,..it just doesn't seem to be an issue. Even if it was,..I'd drill a hole in a cap and simply leave it on the hose and just screw and unscrew each jug,.But,..as of now,..doesn't seem to be an issue. I know there are other hand held sprayers,...but I wanted one with a jug "caddy" to be able to carry jug and all,..along with having just a short hose,..like a typical pump sprayer.

Jeff

-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Friday 26th of February 2016 01:31:43 PM

Maverick Contracting · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Art O had a very similar system, ask him for tips.
I had a hand truck at first.

Good to see you here, learned a lot from you.

-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Friday 26th of February 2016 05:10:12 PM

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

This thread is simply about spot spraying.

Jeff

-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Friday 26th of February 2016 05:41:43 PM

Maverick Contracting · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Sorry Jeff, saw the hand truck design which I had and converted it to small wagon, easier and wanted to give you a pic as an optional idea.
I'll delete it and find a pic if you want.

BlueRidge · Approved Exterior Cleaner

That has been in my mind for years after seeing something similar that Hoover had. I have been using a 5 gal. bucket with the pump attached to the lid and the pick up going through the hole in the lid. I like the compact design and the jug method!

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

No big deal Maverick,.I mislead the topic by posting the hand truck picture ,....so don't delete anything.

Jeff

-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Friday 26th of February 2016 05:44:57 PM

Maverick Contracting · Approved Exterior Cleaner

The only thing I didn't like with my hand truck was it kept tipping over on rough ground. Top heavy. The wagon is much better for me. Still use truck for 35 gal poly tank of SH transport

Bryan P · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I bet yours will be a lot cheaper, but it reminds me of the hand-carry F9 unit that Powerwashstore sells.

www.powerwashstore.com/P/1491/F9HandCarryChemicalApplicatorNo5502

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Maverick,..If you loom at my hand truck,.you'll see the real weight is at the bottom,..it's where the 5 gallon bucket sets,..and also the battery and pump are located at or near the bottom. This isn't top heavy at all.

Yea Bryan,..it is cheaper,..but really,..it's the design of theirs I don't like,..I wanted an all in one,..and theirs isn't. It still requires a bucket or jug to be used "separately". I like theirs for the looks,.but it didn't have the caddy,...and I wasn't about to pay $495.00 and then have a caddy welded onto it ,..and cut the hose to make it suit my needs.

*Didn't add it up yet,.. but I comes in at less than $100.00 I'm sure. Even with the $30.00 trigger.

Jeff

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Art O · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Bryan P wrote:
I bet yours will be a lot cheaper, but it reminds me of the hand-carry F9 unit that Powerwashstore sells.

www.powerwashstore.com/P/1491/F9HandCarryChemicalApplicatorNo5502

I know a guy who bought one of then. The battery that fits in there is like $200 bucks.

Art O · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Jeff Delavan has a 2 year warranty on there pumps. I think you call them and they give you some kind of PO# and you send it back. You pay shipping.

Bryan P · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Art O wrote:
Bryan P wrote:
I bet yours will be a lot cheaper, but it reminds me of the hand-carry F9 unit that Powerwashstore sells.

www.powerwashstore.com/P/1491/F9HandCarryChemicalApplicatorNo5502
I know a guy who bought one of then. The battery that fits in there is like $200 bucks.

Whoa! I figure it was some kind of lawn/garden battery.

Maverick Contracting · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Relook ed and see the yellow chain is where a sample bucket is. Cool. I see how the 5'ver balances out the battery and pump on other side.

I throw a section of hose in a rubbermaid trash can and carry that in other hand. These are old pics, slightly modded now, drop the sides and pu line goes to pump, pump to accumulator out to spray hose.

-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Friday 26th of February 2016 07:56:53 PM

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Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Maverick,..is this your roof rig? That looks like a pump capable of roof jobs. I ask because,.. although I run hose from the trailer,..I can sometimes see how a portable unit would be convenient. Maybe I just get tired of dragging out 200' of hose to spray for 15 minutes I used my hand truck model on a couple of small roofs last Fall,..in a way,..I kind of liked it. And I didn't use as much mix as I typically would have running 3/8" hose and 2 GPM pump.

Hey Art,..didn't know that about Delavan,..does that cover bleach use? Anyone care to chime in on this warranty and success or lack of success with Delavan,..go ahead. This pump does have viton and santoprene,..same as the bigger Delavans.

Regarding the $495.00 unit,..I also don't like it not being enclosed,..Maybe just me,..but I prefer the 'workings: to be enclosed.

*On another note,..the sprayer,.being made of wood doesn't like to have typical screws screwed in and out,..so I use threaded inserts,..that way the hole has a sleeve made of metal, and regular bolts can be used.

**Also gonna change the handle to something more substantial,..don't really like the idea of SH mist getting onto the cloth handle and rotting it and having the whole thing fall on my foot,Ha,Ha,..
Jeff

-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Saturday 27th of February 2016 06:08:08 AM

John Aloisio · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I have one that I bought at the Orlando show two years ago. We use it apply F9 and graffiti remover a lot. I know a few guys who use them for demos and even to spray roofs. I think I paid like 70 bucks for the battery. Its a nice little unit but it needs to cleaned thoroughly when done using it.

Art O · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Jeff Wible wrote:
Maverick,..is this your roof rig? That looks like a pump capable of roof jobs. I ask because,.. although I run hose from the trailer,..I can sometimes see how a portable unit would be convenient. Maybe I just get tired of dragging out 200' of hose to spray for 15 minutes I used my hand truck model on a couple of small roofs last Fall,..in a way,..I kind of liked it. And I didn't use as much mix as I typically would have running 3/8" hose and 2 GPM pump.

Hey Art,..didn't know that about Delavan,..does that cover bleach use? Anyone care to chime in on this warranty and success or lack of success with Delavan,..go ahead. This pump does have viton and santoprene,..same as the bigger Delavans.
Regarding the $495.00 unit,..I also don't like it not being enclosed,..Maybe just me,..but I prefer the 'workings: to be enclosed.

*On another note,..the sprayer,.being made of wood doesn't like to have typical screws screwed in and out,..so I use threaded inserts,..that way the hole has a sleeve made of metal, and regular bolts can be used.
**Also gonna change the handle to something more substantial,..don't really like the idea of SH mist getting onto the cloth handle and rotting it and having the whole thing fall on my foot,Ha,Ha,..
Jeff

-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Saturday 27th of February 2016 06:08:08 AM

From what Delavan told me yes, but Beware there's 2 pumps out there that look exactly a like. One is a Delavan and the other pump is from a guy who used to make the pumps for Delavan. Look in this thread and you will see a pic of a pump head I sent to Delavan. It isn't theirs and they stopped making that head 2 years ago.

http://nationalsoftwashalliance.activeboard.com/t60822052/5850-pump-question/

Maverick Contracting · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Jeff, yes, I built it this way because I mainly do painting and historical restoration so my box truck is a "truck of all trades", hence I designed it to be modular and multi functional.
The small unit can be dropped off at any site for the guys to use while the truck goes to other jobs doing deliveries (incl up to 5 stories of scaffolding), stay on a site as a mobile carpentry shop then pu at end of day.

It takes 5 min to load up with a box containing 2 100 ft of hoses easily carried on shoulder and a parts box, 55 gal rubbermaid garbage can for mixture.

Simple, fast, mobile, versital, can do sample work up to running 2 pump crews for huge "mansion" jobs as for last post.
But the biggest reason I went this way is because a lot of these large estates I work on I don't have access to drive a truck to a building I need to service so I needed a portable unit.

Right now it's set up so pumps can be interchanged by 4 simple wing nuts, 5 min swap out.

-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Saturday 27th of February 2016 11:39:49 AM

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Maverick,..I'm gonna steal your wingnut idea. That makes sense with these little "abused" pumps. I made mine also with "swap outs" in mind. Don't want it to be a PITA.

I had it made out of aluminum,..but I screwed up,..I didn't need these same dimensions,..I could have made it smaller due to the thickness of the thin aluminum compared to the thickness of the wood. But,..I'm likely gonna have another one made. I have a guy who might want this one. He cleans pontoons and wants to go 12V,..so he could use this in a couple ways,..he could set it beside a 5 gallon bucket and add 50' of hose,..or he could use it as a portable.

*Keeping the wooden one as a back up plan.

Jeff

-- Edited by Jeff Wible on Tuesday 15th of March 2016 04:45:49 AM

Maverick Contracting · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Jeff, I used a block of Azek PVC " wood " mounted to my rig with the bolts and a 2nd block moun\ed to the pump bases since I use different pumps with different mounting points and drilled holes in that piece. That then slides onto the bolts with wing nuts. May want to add lock washers but I just check em before use.

I'll try to get a pick when I get to shop if it helps

Some idea

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Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Hey Maverick,..I know exactly what you're talking about. I mount my All-Flo to a plate like that,..just so it's easier to get the bots in,..even once,...
Because the mounting holes on the All-Flo is the worst design for such a good pump.

Didn't think of doing it with the 12V,..I will see how I go through them,.and may just end up doing what you did. Just trying to keep weight off the hand held.

Jeff

Maverick Contracting · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Here Ya go jeff, I hear you bout keeping it lightweight

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Just an update,..aside from the remote,..this is the best tool I've had for a while. Very flexible. Used it the last couple days,..so much nicer than any pump sprayer. One canister in,..one canister out.

Jeff

Dan Dykstra · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I've had the F9 sprayer from power wash store for 3 years now (works great) also have a small unit in a wagon with a 25 gallon tank, just built a hand cart system and I now have this hand held battery system that was purchased for a very specific job. www.youtube.com/watch

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

That's not a bad sprayer for what it is,..but it's not what I personally consider "Truly" hand held. The bucket or jug still has to be separate from the unit itself. And still with a length of hose dragging around. Not what I wanted,..I wanted the whole thing hand held. Grab and go. Or could be used as a stationary as well,..where this unit that The Powerwash Store sells is also limited one dimensional.

Mine is way better than those store bought models, Ha,Ha,...My unbiased opinion of course.

Jeff

BlueRidge · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I was inspired by a portable that Pinky made so I threw this one together on a whim for deck stripping. It is portable but not all in one unit like Jeff's. The 2 gpm pump mounted on the lid was quick and easy with pex going through the pour hole. The battery is in a small rubbermaid container. Now I just need to make it all on a hand truck and find a place for it on the truck. Thanks for posting all this Jeff!

-- Edited by BlueRidge on Friday 25th of March 2016 12:23:30 PM

Jeff Wible · Approved Exterior Cleaner

Yea Brett,..my idea is a sprayer for every need,.the hand truck sprayer I made is nice,..but can be too much sometimes. But sometimes it's just right. All job dependent.

Jeff

BlueRidge · Approved Exterior Cleaner

I was thinking of using a steel hand truck I already have but thought it will be a rust bucket soon so I looked for aluminum. This site has fair pricing as well as design your own. I think I will go this route when I make mine compact and portable.